Coronavirus (political)

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

Sounds like a problem for the next guy. Trump will be neck deep into plans to build Trump Tower Moscow by the time that concern comes along.

trump might very well be in jail when not in the WH.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Good morning Moody. Well written article (I only read the exerts you quoted).

I watched Wall-E last night and its message resonated with this article. While I agree with the article .. I also dont agree.

The American dream is very much alive and achievable .... if you get lucky.

Lucky - I have a friend who works at Giant just returning carts from the parking lot. He is union and I he makes almost $20 an hour with health. This guy is somewhat of a space cadet and couldnt work an office job or even a cashier job. He lives in a townhouse similar to mine but has a roommate.

Not true . I worked for Giant for 31 years . I know the Union that represents the stores .What you're describing fell under the contract people had maybe 15-20 years ago.

No one is "just pulling carts"(at Giant) and is making $20 and hour and if they are pulling carts they are part time. Many if not all the Giant associates got "Covid pay" for a while . Yet even if they did why is it that you think they are unworthy of making $20 hrs an hour ?


As for your Ex , all I can say is if she wants a ful ltime job she has to earn it. Giant has been begging for people but all jobs are starting at part time and you work your way up to the Full time positions.Been that way atr Giant and Safeway for years.

Question, your ex? You say she has been interviewed alot, yet no one will hire full time,she won't take part time?I mean isn't a little better that nothing .isn't that what you're ranting about?

[SunnySide]

No job offer, part time or full time, for the grocery stores. She interviewed multiple times with the 3 ones near us. She had a 8 year gap in employment and is now 1 month away from celebrating 2 years sober.

She just got her drivers license, taking an online pharmacy tech program. She is putting on weight, she went from doctors giving her 1 year to live to now being super healthy.

My point was, I see all these signs hiring (pre covid) and wonder why people cant find jobs. Then I see her experience of struggling to find even part time offers. If people think there are full time jobs just waiting for the unemployed ... that is not the case.

Its part time if you are lucky.

She is making tremendous progress and she will catch her break. She just cant give up.

To be fair, she always worked before she stopped working 8 years ago but all as a bartender and im sure she could have got a bartender/server job 2 years ago but that would have not worked for her sobriety.

[MTK]

No, the CDC did not ‘quietly adjust’ US coronavirus deaths

just amazes me we have a president that tweets out fake news on the regular

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

No job offer, part time or full time, for the grocery stores. She interviewed multiple times with the 3 ones near us. She had a 8 year gap in employment and is now 1 month away from celebrating 2 years sober.

She just got her drivers license, taking an online pharmacy tech program. She is putting on weight, she went from doctors giving her 1 year to live to now being super healthy.

My point was, I see all these signs hiring (pre covid) and wonder why people cant find jobs. Then I see her experience of struggling to find even part time offers. If people think there are full time jobs just waiting for the unemployed ... that is not the case.

Its part time if you are lucky.

She is making tremendous progress and she will catch her break. She just cant give up.

To be fair, she always worked before she stopped working 8 years ago but all as a bartender and im sure she could have got a bartender/server job 2 years ago but that would have not worked for her sobriety.

https://giantfood.com/pages/careers


https://www.ziprecruiter.com/c/Giant-Food/Jobs



https://www.glassdoor.com/Jobs/Giant-Food-Jobs-E878.htm



Hopefully these can help.

[SunnySide]

President Trump announced a vaccine distribution plan Wednesday and predicted availability as early as October, directly contradicting a much longer timeline offered earlier in the day by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director.

Dr. Robert Redfield told a panel of Senate lawmakers not to expect a coronavirus vaccine to become widely available to most of the U.S. population until the summer of 2021 -- publicly rebuffing Trump’s repeated assertion that a vaccine might be available before the November election.

"I think he made a mistake when he said that. It's just incorrect information," Trump said Wednesday in response to a question from Fox News' John Roberts. "I believe he was confused."

CDC'S REDFIELD CONTRADICTS TRUMP ADMIN ON COVID VACCINE TIMING, SAYS SOMETIME IN 2021

Trump also refuted Redfield’s statements that wearing a mask may be more important than a potential vaccine because there’s clear scientific evidence they work.

"I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine,” Redfield said, holding up his face mask before the Senate panel.

Trump said he spoke to Redfield afterwards and thinks the CDC director could have confused the question and answered "incorrectly."

"I think maybe he misunderstood it," Trump said, adding that "the mask is a mixed bag."

In an apparent attempt to clarify his comments on Wednesday, Redfield tweeted later that a "vaccine is the thing that will get Americans back to normal everyday life," but also reiterated that the best defense against the contagion currently is wearing a mask.

The coronavirus contradictions came as Trump confirmed at least one of his White House staffers tested positive for the virus. Trump didn't name the aide but said "it's not anybody that was near me."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...e-was-confused

Just making stuff up for election purposes.

Fifty-two percent of adults say they don't trust the president's vaccine comments, while just 26 percent say they do. Twenty percent say they are "not aware" whether they trust what the president has said about a vaccine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...covid-n1240080

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

President Trump announced a vaccine distribution plan Wednesday and predicted availability as early as October, directly contradicting a much longer timeline offered earlier in the day by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director.

Dr. Robert Redfield told a panel of Senate lawmakers not to expect a coronavirus vaccine to become widely available to most of the U.S. population until the summer of 2021 -- publicly rebuffing Trump’s repeated assertion that a vaccine might be available before the November election.

"I think he made a mistake when he said that. It's just incorrect information," Trump said Wednesday in response to a question from Fox News' John Roberts. "I believe he was confused."

CDC'S REDFIELD CONTRADICTS TRUMP ADMIN ON COVID VACCINE TIMING, SAYS SOMETIME IN 2021

Trump also refuted Redfield’s statements that wearing a mask may be more important than a potential vaccine because there’s clear scientific evidence they work.

"I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine,” Redfield said, holding up his face mask before the Senate panel.

Trump said he spoke to Redfield afterwards and thinks the CDC director could have confused the question and answered "incorrectly."

"I think maybe he misunderstood it," Trump said, adding that "the mask is a mixed bag."

In an apparent attempt to clarify his comments on Wednesday, Redfield tweeted later that a "vaccine is the thing that will get Americans back to normal everyday life," but also reiterated that the best defense against the contagion currently is wearing a mask.

The coronavirus contradictions came as Trump confirmed at least one of his White House staffers tested positive for the virus. Trump didn't name the aide but said "it's not anybody that was near me."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...e-was-confused

Just making stuff up for election purposes.

Fifty-two percent of adults say they don't trust the president's vaccine comments, while just 26 percent say they do. Twenty percent say they are "not aware" whether they trust what the president has said about a vaccine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...covid-n1240080

President Trump is selling hope to his base.

Me personally, I'm not sure who to trust, the doctor who spent his entire life studying medicine and rising to the head of the CDC or the businessman who shits in a gold toilet.

[MTK]

The Rona has been handled so poorly by Trump it's insane that anyone trusts this fool.

[SunnySide]

"If the not-so-good job was done, you'd be between 1.5 million—I remember these numbers so well—and 2.2 million. That's quite a difference," the president said.

"So we're down in this territory," Trump continued, pointing to the 100,000 to 240,000 projected death toll displayed on the chart. "And that's despite the fact that the blue states had tremendous death rates. If you take the blue states out, we're at a level that I don't think anybody in the world would be at. We're really at a very low level. But some of the states, they were blue states and blue-state-managed."

"The most recent data, through Tuesday, indicates that about 53 percent of deaths have occurred in blue states—meaning that 47 percent have occurred in red ones. In other words, more than 90,000 deaths have occurred in red states. If that were the country's total, we would have seen the second-most number of deaths globally, trailing only Brazil."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ys-covid-death

This plays along the lines of Trump stopping efforts to help with COVID on the federal level and passing responsibility to governors when he realized it was only effecting blue states in March and April.

He basically saw it as a way out so he could take no responsibility, claiming its up to the States .. then having the Feds seize PPE the individual states had secured.

Hes a horrible human being. Hes spent 3.8 years as POTUS just running a re-election campaign catering to the low educated, easily mislead red base.

Only thing he is good at is name calling and making "liberals" freak out .. only thing low educated red voters care about - 'does it piss off the educated liberal elite?"

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Do you think the conundrum of taking a vaccine that COULD have a microchip in it vs. listening to what their Orange Jesus tells them will make their heads explode?!

[MTK]

lol wackos that worry about microchips but have no problem with having a smart phone

[TheMalcolmConnection]

EXACTLY. That meme cracks me up. I saw this thing on Reddit where they said if they were Bill Gates, they'd just tell the world to fuck off. Dude is literally trying to be Batman, doing all the good he can with his fortune and people still criticize him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

EXACTLY. That meme cracks me up. I saw this thing on Reddit where they said if they were Bill Gates, they'd just tell the world to fuck off. Dude is literally trying to be Batman, doing all the good he can with his fortune and people still criticize him.

The amount of money and resources the Gates foundation has put into things like eradicating polio and now the Rona vaccine is astounding, but yeah the Karens of the world think he's trying to take over the world with microchips. Just idiotic.

[sdskinsfan2001]

My buddy sent me this (he is way more left than right)...

[SolidSnake84]

i think it's time we accept as a nation that our way of life has permanently changed. Everything we remember from "before", is just that. Before our lives were all changed.

Dr. Fauci has doubled down in recent days, making clear that his opinion is that a vaccine WILL NOT end the pandemic, and even with Americans being vaccinated, we cannot abandon the public health measures and restrictions. He has said numerous times that we cannot, and should not, go back to living like we did before.

Couple that with state governors who will lock things down / restrict indefinitely, i think we can all safely say that the life we lived before will now be just a memory.

Life will go on as it always has, but it will be different. I read an article about how Americans fought against seat belts for so long, before eventually relenting. Permanent use of masks, home-school, working from home, and avoiding public places i believe will be the life of a USA citizen for the rest of our lives. At some point, people may no longer leave their homes anymore at all, because of fear of the virus.

I think the sooner we process that, we can begin healing as a country. Sports will go on, but if a football team builds a new stadium, it might only have capacity for 10K people. Not 80K people. Concerts, amusement parks, and large gatherings is something that will be in the past forever. At some point, Public School will move to all online forever. Joe Biden is going to have to wrestle with all of this, and I hope that he is prepared that his country a year from now will look a lot more like North Korea as far as citizens not moving around / doing stuff, because of fear, etc.. I'm not saying we will be like NK because of communism, just want to make that clear.