2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

[saden1]

More amiturish mistakes from The Wonk:



...you field garbage, you get garbage.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

More amiturish mistakes from The Wonk:



...you field garbage, you get garbage.

What did he say that's not correct. Its not the business men and women who get up at 5 and work 7 days a week that makes this country run? Its not the people who have the burden of making a payroll for their employees that make this country run?

[Alvin Walton]

Being allowed to vote without having an proper ID if effing retarded.
Why should Carlos Borderjumper be allowed to vote?
Why should Clancey Weaselfarce be allowed to vote 18 times?
We need a national ID.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

More amiturish mistakes from The Wonk:

Speaking of mistakes, presenting our VP:

The Associated Press: Biden: Middle class 'buried' the last 4 years

"This is deadly earnest," Biden said. "How they can justify raising taxes on a middle class that has been buried the last four years? How in Lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts?"

What's even funnier about Biden's gaffe is that Romney/Ryan have pledged not to raise taxes on anyone....but Obama will oversee the largest tax increase in history come Jan. 1 and with the full implementation of ObamaCare policies.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Here's the real Obama, Divider-in-Chief:

VIDEO: Obama speech praises Wright, attacks feds on Katrina | The Daily Caller

Not only is this racially divisive garbage wrong, Obama is factually wrong about the Stafford Act and amount of funding sent to N.O. vs. NY.

From the link:
"By January of 2007, six months before Obama’s Hampton speech, the federal government had sent at least $110 billion to areas damaged by Katrina. Compare this to the mere $20 billion that the Bush administration pledged to New York City after Sept. 11.
Moreover, the federal government did at times waive the Stafford Act during its reconstruction efforts. On May 25, 2007, just weeks before the speech, the Bush administration sent an additional $6.9 billion to Katrina-affected areas with no strings attached.
As a sitting United States Senator, Obama must have been aware of this. And yet he spent 36 minutes at the pulpit telling a mostly black audience that the U.S. government doesn’t like them because they’re black."

And.....under the Obama "recovery" household income in the black community has fallen 11% vs. the overall household income decline at 8%. hmmm?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's the real Obama, Divider-in-Chief:

VIDEO: Obama speech praises Wright, attacks feds on Katrina | The Daily Caller

Not only is this racially divisive garbage wrong, Obama is factually wrong about the Stafford Act and amount of funding sent to N.O. vs. NY.

From the link:
"By January of 2007, six months before Obama’s Hampton speech, the federal government had sent at least $110 billion to areas damaged by Katrina. Compare this to the mere $20 billion that the Bush administration pledged to New York City after Sept. 11.
Moreover, the federal government did at times waive the Stafford Act during its reconstruction efforts. On May 25, 2007, just weeks before the speech, the Bush administration sent an additional $6.9 billion to Katrina-affected areas with no strings attached.
As a sitting United States Senator, Obama must have been aware of this. And yet he spent 36 minutes at the pulpit telling a mostly black audience that the U.S. government doesn’t like them because they’re black."

And.....under the Obama "recovery" household income in the black community has fallen 11% vs. the overall household income decline at 8%. hmmm?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Divider in Chief..Tucker Carlson..Hahahhahaha...LOL..hahahahah...whew!

SlinginSammy, stop it! You're killing me.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The only reason you think its good is because you know your party is supported by the dumb and lazy.

What? This is clear voter discrimination not everyone has the means or money to get such an ID card. Seniors and the poor tend to have expired photo IDs.

Also there is zero proof of voter fraud. Both dems and repubs have agreed to this. This bill was signed into law to prevent certain groups from having equal access to the voting booth.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

What? This is clear voter discrimination not everyone has the means or money to get such an ID card. Seniors and the poor tend to have expired photo IDs.

Also there is zero proof of voter fraud. Both dems and repubs have agreed to this. This bill was signed into law to prevent certain groups from having equal access to the voting booth.

You do know they except about 10 different forms of ID. Seniors can use their SS check stub and the poor can use any gov. type check (wellfair, food stamps, etc...)they receive. I thought Bush got elected by voter fraud? Seems to change with the left to meet their needs. Also if you don't check ID's how would you know if there was voter fraud? That would be like saying if cops do not run radar then people must not be speeding.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You do know they except about 10 different forms of ID. Seniors can use their SS check stub and the poor can use any gov. type check (wellfair, food stamps, etc...)they receive. I thought Bush got elected by voter fraud? Seems to change with the left to meet their needs. Also if you don't check ID's how would you know if there was voter fraud? That would be like saying if cops do not run radar then people must not be speeding.

bush wasn't elected by the voters

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by los panda

bush wasn't elected by the voters

Then who was he elected by?

Lets actually discuss Florida since you cant seem to get it off your mind. To this day, Florida has never been legally challenged by democrats. You have to understand one thing. There are 3 stages to an election.

1) The Voting Phase
2) The Certification
3) The contesting Phase

Dems attacked the certification. They went out of their way to stop the certification for some reason (well there is a reason which I will get to later). They never let the contesting phase happen. If you want to legally challenge an election result, you have no choice but to get to the contesting phase.

Begging the question, why would you stop the contesting phase if the goal is to contest the election?

Its very simple. Its an old political trick. When you have lost an election that you know you will lose regardless of how many times you contest it, then you do one thing. You contest the certification. The certification is nothing. It represents basically the guy ringing the bell to start a round in boxing. The only purpose of the certification is to START the contesting phase.

Contesting the certification allows someone who knows that they have been beat to cry and whine against the election. After all, if you are convinced that you will win a recount, you would never in a million years stop the certification, which is exactly what happened in Fla. This is the first time that this very old political trick has reared its head in a national election. You normally see it at the city and county level.

To this day the dems have NEVER LEGALLY CHALLENGED the results in Fla. That pretty much says it all.

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Then who was he elected by?

Lets actually discuss Florida since you cant seem to get it off your mind. To this day, Florida has never been legally challenged by democrats. You have to understand one thing. There are 3 stages to an election.

1) The Voting Phase
2) The Certification
3) The contesting Phase

Dems attacked the certification. They went out of their way to stop the certification for some reason (well there is a reason which I will get to later). They never let the contesting phase happen. If you want to legally challenge an election result, you have no choice but to get to the contesting phase.

Begging the question, why would you stop the contesting phase if the goal is to contest the election?

Its very simple. Its an old political trick. When you have lost an election that you know you will lose regardless of how many times you contest it, then you do one thing. You contest the certification. The certification is nothing. It represents basically the guy ringing the bell to start a round in boxing. The only purpose of the certification is to START the contesting phase.

Contesting the certification allows someone who knows that they have been beat to cry and whine against the election. After all, if you are convinced that you will win a recount, you would never in a million years stop the certification, which is exactly what happened in Fla. This is the first time that this very old political trick has reared its head in a national election. You normally see it at the city and county level.

To this day the dems have NEVER LEGALLY CHALLENGED the results in Fla. That pretty much says it all.

the electoral college, the voters voted 50,456,002 to 50,999,897 in favor of gore. that's all i was getting at.

Federal Elections 2000: 2000 Presidential Electoral and Popular Vote Table

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You do know they except about 10 different forms of ID. Seniors can use their SS check stub and the poor can use any gov. type check (wellfair, food stamps, etc...)they receive. I thought Bush got elected by voter fraud? Seems to change with the left to meet their needs. Also if you don't check ID's how would you know if there was voter fraud? That would be like saying if cops do not run radar then people must not be speeding.

Give me a link. All I've seen is a photo ID is needed.

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/voter/voteridlaw.shtml

So no SSN card or bills. Poor people and seniors may not have car access to a DMV or the money to pay to get there.

[hooskins]

Voter fraud doesn't exist. Period.

http://www.brennancenter.org/content...of_voter_fraud

[12thMan]

Ever notice when Obama's talking to black people, he's being divisive and ginning up race? Oh....he's soooo scary.

[hooskins]

Mitt Romney Style! Ayyye wealthy lady!

http://m.collegehumor.com/video/6830...m-style-parody