Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I still think Trent comes back.

Been saying since the story broke that he is never putting on a Skins uniform again. My gut told me that than, and now im more convinced, unfortunately.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Been saying since the story broke that he is never putting on a Skins uniform again. My gut told me that than, and now im more convinced, unfortunately.

Cooley said he's as good as gone. He said what I'd been thinking, and I imagine he has insight to the general feeling around the organization, that, you can't criticize the training staff publically (by proxy) and expect to be able to come back to the locker room line everything's cool.

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by WillH

Cooley said he's as good as gone. He said what I'd been thinking, and I imagine he has insight to the general feeling around the organization, that, you can't criticize the training staff publically (by proxy) and expect to be able to come back to the locker room line everything's cool.

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Yep, he also made a point about how the teammates would start feeling about the medical staff with a player of TW's caliber in the locker room having spoke so badly of them.

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[skinsfaninok]

If so then lets hope we can get a good player or pick for him. Still would love Clowney or Diggs

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If so then lets hope we can get a good player or pick for him. Still would love Clowney or Diggs

Diggs would be a welcome addition to the team, would have to re sign him too though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

This Colt McCoy story makes me support Trent a bit more on all this. This fucking franchise just doesn't get it. How the fuck do you rush back a broken leg? You can't will a bone to heal! You wait the required time and don't play until its 100% healed. Sending him out there is fucking terrible.

This franchise needs a complete reset from the owner on down.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This Colt McCoy story makes me support Trent a bit more on all this. This fucking franchise just doesn't get it. How the fuck do you rush back a broken leg? You can't will a bone to heal! You wait the required time and don't play until its 100% healed. Sending him out there is fucking terrible.

This franchise needs a complete reset from the owner on down.

Yes it does, its a damn shame

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Yes it does, its a damn shame

This franchise just oozes unprofessionalism.

They need to be like George Constanza and try doing the exact opposite of what they've been doing.

[skinsfaninok]

I guess i don't blame Trent for wanting out, sucks to have your best player for a decade just hate u

[Ruhskins]

So we are not putting any responsibility on Colt on wanting to come back too soon? We know how players lie in concussion exams to get back on the field. I just see Colt and Trent's situation completely different.

Also, if the medical team was so terrible, shouldn't Alex Smith or other injured players be disgruntled with the team? Also, as I've said before, wouldn't the NFLPA be already involved?

I just feel that a lot of people seem misinformed about the medical issues. Everyone keeps bringing up Guice and him having an infection, yet he talked with JP Findlay and said that they did a preventive treatment to avoid an infection.

To me the more frustrating part from the team about the medical stuff is the lack of communication (which JP Findlay said in his podcast today).

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So we are not putting any responsibility on Colt on wanting to come back too soon? We know how players lie in concussion exams to get back on the field. I just see Colt and Trent's situation completely different.

Also, if the medical team was so terrible, shouldn't Alex Smith or other injured players be disgruntled with the team? Also, as I've said before, wouldn't the NFLPA be already involved?

I just feel that a lot of people seem misinformed about the medical issues. Everyone keeps bringing up Guice and him having an infection, yet he talked with JP Findlay and said that they did a preventive treatment to avoid an infection.

To me the more frustrating part from the team about the medical stuff is the lack of communication (which JP Findlay said in his podcast today).

Players aren't doctors. The onus is on the teams medical and coaching staffs to take care of their players health 1st and foremost. To me rushing a broken leg is brutal and completely unacceptable.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Players aren't doctors. The onus is on the teams medical and coaching staffs to take care of their players health 1st and foremost. To me rushing a broken leg is brutal and completely unacceptable.

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

Great point. Counterpoint: I've never heard of a single player who came back from a broken leg in a month. I put the blame for Colt's current issues half on him and half on the team, because both were eager to see if he could come back in the event of a deep playoff run (it was 2 months from his leg to the Super Bowl, even that timeframe seems hella unrealistic).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

What?? It's very simple. Take X ray. Fibula is broken. Go to operating table. Done for the year. Am I missing something here?

Think about this. Those clowns wanted to rush back a career back up, injury prone, noodle armed QB who turns the ball over cause they thought he was going to put on a cape and take a 500 team to the playoffs?? Major sigh, smh.....

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This stuff isn't an exact science. Everyone heals at different rates. How the player says theyre feeling plays a huge role.

Exactly, X-rays and MRIs don't tell the whole story, patient feedback is very important. If someone has a high tolerance to pain they can fool a doctor into believing they are doing better than they are.