Let's talk good beer

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

definitely looking forward to this one

Sierra Nevada Hops Hunter IPA Announcement - Sierra Nevada Wet Hops Beer - Esquire

Beer lovers torpedo Lagunitas lawsuit against Sierra Nevada - SFGate

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Beer lovers torpedo Lagunitas lawsuit against Sierra Nevada - SFGate

When craft beer makers start worrying about labels...time to sell to the big boys. Shame on Laganitas.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

When craft beer makers start worrying about labels...time to sell to the big boys. Shame on Laganitas.

Dude that runs that company is a little out there.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Dude that runs that company is a little out there.

Yeah, how serious was his complaint if he got internet shamed over it and dropped it within 24 hours? Oh god if this would only work with Dan Snyder...

This type of thing isnt the spirit of the micro/craft beer movement...

[over the mountain]

BD - have you seen anything from farmstead hill in MD?

edit - no, farmstead brews a very little amount and want to keep their product quality control at its highest level. it is only avail in New Hampshire where it is brewed.

interesting article - apparently DC, unlike the 50 states, does not have a law that restricts alcohol sales across the line ... meaning if a DC distributor isnt selling enough of a product, a DC bar can go buy the beer and bring it back across DC lines for sale.

wish someone would go drive up to philly and buy some russian river.

The Business of Beer: The D.C. Import Loophole - BeerGraphs

stumbled upon this as well ... beer distribution map for all states

SeekABrew US Distribution Map

21st Amendment
Abita
Against the Grain
Allagash
Anchor
Anderson Valley
Appalachian
Arcadia
Atlantic Brewing
Atwater
Avery
Ballast Point
Bard's Tale
Bear Republic
Black Diamond
Blue Point
Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams)
Boulder
Boulevard
Breckenridge
Brewers Alley
Brewers Art
Brooklyn
Buffalo Bill's
Butternuts
Caldera
Cape Ann
Cisco
Clown Shoes [Limited]
D.L. Geary's
DC Brau [Limited]
Devils Backbone
Dixie
DOG (Pub Dog)
Dogfish Head
DuClaw
Elysian
Erie
Evil Twin
Evolution
FiftyFifty [Limited]
Firestone Walker [Limited]
Flying Dog
Flying Fish
Fordham
Full Sail
Goose Island
Gordon Biersch
Great Divide
Green Flash
Harpoon
Heavy Seas - see Clipper City
Hook & Ladder
Iron City
Jolly Pumpkin
Kona
Lagunitas
Lake Placid
Lakefront
Lancaster
Laughing Dog
Legacy - CLOSED
Leinenkugel
Lion Brewery
Long Trail
Mad River (Steelhead)
Magic Hat
Maine [Limited]
Matt (Saranac)
Maui
McSorley's (Pabst brand)
Mendocino
Mountaineer
Moylan's
Napa Smith
New Belgium
North Coast
Old Dominion
Old Schoolhouse
Ommegang
Oskar Blues
Otter Creek
Oxbow [Limited]
Peak Organic
Penn
Perennial [Limited]
Pike
Port City
Prairie Artisan Ales
Pyramid
Rahr & Sons
Redhook
River Horse
RJ Rockers
Rogue
Saint Somewhere
Schlafly [Limited]
Sea Dog
Shelton Brothers (importers)
Shipyard
Shmaltz (He'Brew)
Sierra Nevada
Sixpoint
Slumbrew
Sly Fox
Smuttynose
Southampton
Southern Tier
Spoetzl (Shiner)
St. George
Starr Hill
Stevens Point
Stillwater
Stone
Stoudt's
Terrapin
The Bruery
Thirsty Dog
Thomas Hooker
Tommyknocker
Troegs
Uinta
Union Brewing
Victory
Weyerbacher
White Birch
Widmer Bros.
Williamsburg AleWerks
Yards
Yuengling


^^^ MD distribution kinda sucks imo. im sure its better than half the states but i thought we would be a lot better.

if a mod thinks the list is too long, let me know and i will cut it out. kinda cool game if everyone bolds the beers they have tried. BD - you can just bold the beers you havent tried.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

BD - have you seen anything from farmstead hill in MD?

edit - no, farmstead brews a very little amount and want to keep their product quality control at its highest level. it is only avail in New Hampshire where it is brewed.

interesting article - apparently DC, unlike the 50 states, does not have a law that restricts alcohol sales across the line ... meaning if a DC distributor isnt selling enough of a product, a DC bar can go buy the beer and bring it back across DC lines for sale.

wish someone would go drive up to philly and buy some russian river.

The Business of Beer: The D.C. Import Loophole - BeerGraphs

stumbled upon this as well ... beer distribution map for all states

SeekABrew US Distribution Map

21st Amendment
Abita
Against the Grain
Allagash
Anchor
Anderson Valley
Appalachian
Arcadia
Atlantic Brewing
Atwater
Avery
Ballast Point
Bard's Tale
Bear Republic
Black Diamond
Blue Point
Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams)
Boulder
Boulevard
Breckenridge
Brewers Alley
Brewers Art
Brooklyn
Buffalo Bill's
Butternuts
Caldera
Cape Ann
Cisco
Clown Shoes [Limited]
D.L. Geary's
DC Brau [Limited]
Devils Backbone
Dixie
DOG (Pub Dog)
Dogfish Head
DuClaw
Elysian
Erie
Evil Twin
Evolution
FiftyFifty [Limited]
Firestone Walker [Limited]
Flying Dog
Flying Fish
Fordham
Full Sail
Goose Island
Gordon Biersch
Great Divide
Green Flash
Harpoon
Heavy Seas - see Clipper City
Hook & Ladder
Iron City
Jolly Pumpkin
Kona
Lagunitas
Lake Placid
Lakefront
Lancaster
Laughing Dog
Legacy - CLOSED
Leinenkugel
Lion Brewery
Long Trail
Mad River (Steelhead)
Magic Hat
Maine [Limited]
Matt (Saranac)
Maui
McSorley's (Pabst brand)
Mendocino
Mountaineer
Moylan's
Napa Smith
New Belgium
North Coast
Old Dominion
Old Schoolhouse
Ommegang
Oskar Blues
Otter Creek
Oxbow [Limited]
Peak Organic
Penn
Perennial [Limited]
Pike
Port City
Prairie Artisan Ales
Pyramid
Rahr & Sons
Redhook
River Horse
RJ Rockers
Rogue
Saint Somewhere
Schlafly [Limited]
Sea Dog
Shelton Brothers (importers)
Shipyard
Shmaltz (He'Brew)
Sierra Nevada
Sixpoint
Slumbrew
Sly Fox
Smuttynose
Southampton
Southern Tier
Spoetzl (Shiner)
St. George
Starr Hill
Stevens Point
Stillwater
Stone
Stoudt's
Terrapin
The Bruery
Thirsty Dog
Thomas Hooker
Tommyknocker
Troegs
Uinta
Union Brewing
Victory
Weyerbacher
White Birch
Widmer Bros.
Williamsburg AleWerks
Yards
Yuengling


^^^ MD distribution kinda sucks imo. im sure its better than half the states but i thought we would be a lot better.

if a mod thinks the list is too long, let me know and i will cut it out. kinda cool game if everyone bolds the beers they have tried. BD - you can just bold the beers you havent tried.

There is actually a place on P St. right at Dupont circle that sells Russian River. They have Pliney the Elder and some of the others but are extremely overpriced. A bottle of Pliney is $20+. If you want Russian River look around at online stores and you can get it shipped. Its not cheap but still cheaper than $20+ a bottle. I have gotten quite a few "unatainable" beers through the mail.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

stumbled upon this as well ... beer distribution map for all states

SeekABrew US Distribution Map

21st Amendment
Abita
Against the Grain
Allagash
Anchor
Anderson Valley
Appalachian
Arcadia
Atlantic Brewing
Atwater
Avery
Ballast Point
Bard's Tale
Bear Republic
Black Diamond
Blue Point
Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams)
Boulder
Boulevard
Breckenridge
Brewers Alley
Brewers Art
Brooklyn
Buffalo Bill's
Butternuts
Caldera
Cape Ann
Cisco
Clown Shoes [Limited]
D.L. Geary's
DC Brau [Limited]
Devils Backbone
Dixie
DOG (Pub Dog)
Dogfish Head
DuClaw
Elysian
Erie
Evil Twin
Evolution
FiftyFifty [Limited]
Firestone Walker [Limited]
Flying Dog
Flying Fish
Fordham
Full Sail
Goose Island
Gordon Biersch
Great Divide
Green Flash
Harpoon
Heavy Seas - see Clipper City
Hook & Ladder
Iron City
Jolly Pumpkin
Kona
Lagunitas
Lake Placid
Lakefront
Lancaster
Laughing Dog
Legacy - CLOSED
Leinenkugel
Lion Brewery
Long Trail
Mad River (Steelhead)
Magic Hat
Maine [Limited]
Matt (Saranac)
Maui
McSorley's (Pabst brand)
Mendocino
Mountaineer
Moylan's
Napa Smith
New Belgium
North Coast
Old Dominion
Old Schoolhouse
Ommegang
Oskar Blues
Otter Creek
Oxbow [Limited]
Peak Organic
Penn
Perennial [Limited]
Pike
Port City
Prairie Artisan Ales
Pyramid
Rahr & Sons
Redhook
River Horse
RJ Rockers
Rogue
Saint Somewhere
Schlafly [Limited]
Sea Dog
Shelton Brothers (importers)
Shipyard
Shmaltz (He'Brew)
Sierra Nevada
Sixpoint
Slumbrew
Sly Fox
Smuttynose
Southampton
Southern Tier
Spoetzl (Shiner)
St. George
Starr Hill
Stevens Point
Stillwater
Stone
Stoudt's
Terrapin
The Bruery
Thirsty Dog
Thomas Hooker
Tommyknocker
Troegs
Uinta
Union Brewing
Victory
Weyerbacher
White Birch
Widmer Bros.
Williamsburg AleWerks
Yards
Yuengling

i bolded my list.

redskins mike - i went to 3 sites so far .. but none will sell any of the hard to get beers in MD - russian river, bells, cigar city, etc.

can you tell me what site you used please?

[BDBohnzie]

Good read on Jim Koch's empire and how it's hard to stay on top:
Wasted: How the Craft-Beer Movement Abandoned Jim Koch

There are actually a good amount of breweries on that list I haven't tried, so I'll stick with bolding what I've had...

21st Amendment, Abita, Against the Grain, Allagash, Anchor, Anderson Valley, Appalachian, Arcadia, Atlantic Brewing, Atwater, Avery, Ballast Point, Bard's Tale, Bear Republic, Black Diamond, Blue Point, Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams), Boulder, Boulevard, Breckenridge, Brewers Alley, Brewers Art, Brooklyn, Buffalo Bill's, Butternuts, Caldera, Cape Ann, Cisco, Clown Shoes [Limited], D.L. Geary's, DC Brau [Limited], Devils Backbone, Dixie, DOG (Pub Dog), Dogfish Head, DuClaw, Elysian, Erie, Evil Twin, Evolution, FiftyFifty [Limited], Firestone Walker [Limited], Flying Dog, Flying Fish, Fordham, Full Sail, Goose Island, Gordon Biersch, Great Divide, Green Flash, Harpoon, Heavy Seas - see Clipper City, Hook & Ladder, Iron City, Jolly Pumpkin, Kona, Lagunitas, Lake Placid, Lakefront, Lancaster, Laughing Dog, Legacy - CLOSED, Leinenkugel, Lion Brewery, Long Trail, Mad River (Steelhead), Magic Hat, Maine [Limited], Matt (Saranac), Maui, McSorley's (Pabst brand), Mendocino, Mountaineer, Moylan's, Napa Smith, New Belgium, North Coast, Old Dominion, Old Schoolhouse, Ommegang, Oskar Blues, Otter Creek, Oxbow [Limited], Peak Organic, Penn, Perennial [Limited], Pike, Port City, Prairie Artisan Ales, Pyramid, Rahr & Sons, Redhook, River Horse, RJ Rockers, Rogue, Saint Somewhere, Schlafly [Limited], Sea Dog, Shelton Brothers (importers), Shipyard, Shmaltz (He'Brew), Sierra Nevada, Sixpoint, Slumbrew, Sly Fox, Smuttynose, Southampton, Southern Tier, Spoetzl (Shiner), St. George, Starr Hill, Stevens Point, Stillwater, Stone, Stoudt's, Terrapin, The Bruery, Thirsty Dog, Thomas Hooker, Tommyknocker, Troegs, Uinta, Union Brewing, Victory, Weyerbacher, White Birch, Widmer Bros., Williamsburg AleWerks, Yards, Yuengling

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BDBohnzie

Good read on Jim Koch's empire and how it's hard to stay on top:
Wasted: How the Craft-Beer Movement Abandoned Jim Koch

There are actually a good amount of breweries on that list I haven't tried, so I'll stick with bolding what I've had...

21st Amendment, Abita, Against the Grain, Allagash, Anchor, Anderson Valley, Appalachian, Arcadia, Atlantic Brewing, Atwater, Avery, Ballast Point, Bard's Tale, Bear Republic, Black Diamond, Blue Point, Boston Beer Co. (Sam Adams), Boulder, Boulevard, Breckenridge, Brewers Alley, Brewers Art, Brooklyn, Buffalo Bill's, Butternuts, Caldera, Cape Ann, Cisco, Clown Shoes [Limited], D.L. Geary's, DC Brau [Limited], Devils Backbone, Dixie, DOG (Pub Dog), Dogfish Head, DuClaw, Elysian, Erie, Evil Twin, Evolution, FiftyFifty [Limited], Firestone Walker [Limited], Flying Dog, Flying Fish, Fordham, Full Sail, Goose Island, Gordon Biersch, Great Divide, Green Flash, Harpoon, Heavy Seas - see Clipper City, Hook & Ladder, Iron City, Jolly Pumpkin, Kona, Lagunitas, Lake Placid, Lakefront, Lancaster, Laughing Dog, Legacy - CLOSED, Leinenkugel, Lion Brewery, Long Trail, Mad River (Steelhead), Magic Hat, Maine [Limited], Matt (Saranac), Maui, McSorley's (Pabst brand), Mendocino, Mountaineer, Moylan's, Napa Smith, New Belgium, North Coast, Old Dominion, Old Schoolhouse, Ommegang, Oskar Blues, Otter Creek, Oxbow [Limited], Peak Organic, Penn, Perennial [Limited], Pike, Port City, Prairie Artisan Ales, Pyramid, Rahr & Sons, Redhook, River Horse, RJ Rockers, Rogue, Saint Somewhere, Schlafly [Limited], Sea Dog, Shelton Brothers (importers), Shipyard, Shmaltz (He'Brew), Sierra Nevada, Sixpoint, Slumbrew, Sly Fox, Smuttynose, Southampton, Southern Tier, Spoetzl (Shiner), St. George, Starr Hill, Stevens Point, Stillwater, Stone, Stoudt's, Terrapin, The Bruery, Thirsty Dog, Thomas Hooker, Tommyknocker, Troegs, Uinta, Union Brewing, Victory, Weyerbacher, White Birch, Widmer Bros., Williamsburg AleWerks, Yards, Yuengling

Man, you need to knock out Anderson Valley, Ballast Point, Bear Republic, Breckenridge next chance yah get.

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Man, you need to knock out Anderson Valley, Ballast Point, Bear Republic, Breckenridge next chance yah get.

Definitely on the list. I usually go to a small store that carries some great stuff, they just don't have the room to carry more. I need to branch out to the other shops in Frederick. There are a few really good ones.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Over the Mountain,

I was in Ashville, NC two summers ago a small town with over 65 breweries many distribute to VA, DC, DE, PA, WV and not Maryland. I emailed them (I did this with New Belgium five years ago and they gave me the same answer but now distribute in MD), that said the distribution fees for out of state craft brews is too step in MD.

[RedskinMike]

http://onlinebeerstores.homestead.com/

Here is a list. Look through them and see what you can find. Stores carry different things at different times so if it doesnt have it now it might later.

[over the mountain]

i want to try something diff this week. gonna take chico up on his recommendation of Anderson Valley, Bear Republic or Breckenridge.

mike - i went to a few of those sites, unfortunately MD is on a lot of the "cant ship" lists.

bd - my craft beer store lets me special order a case of any beer that can distribute in MD and then keeps it in the back walk in and lets me buy sixers at a time. 10% off if i buy the case.

i found that when they special order a beer, it ends up getting in their normal rotation.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i want to try something diff this week. gonna take chico up on his recommendation of Anderson Valley, Bear Republic or Breckenridge.

mike - i went to a few of those sites, unfortunately MD is on a lot of the "cant ship" lists.

bd - my craft beer store lets me special order a case of any beer that can distribute in MD and then keeps it in the back walk in and lets me buy sixers at a time. 10% off if i buy the case.

i found that when they special order a beer, it ends up getting in their normal rotation.

Don't just look at whats listed on the list. Go to individual sites and check. The shipping laws in Maryland have changed and alot that say they won't ship on the main list will.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i want to try something diff this week. gonna take chico up on his recommendation of Anderson Valley, Bear Republic or Breckenridge.

mike - i went to a few of those sites, unfortunately MD is on a lot of the "cant ship" lists.

bd - my craft beer store lets me special order a case of any beer that can distribute in MD and then keeps it in the back walk in and lets me buy sixers at a time. 10% off if i buy the case.

i found that when they special order a beer, it ends up getting in their normal rotation.

Bring On The Beer carries Pliney. They are out of stock right now but has a place to put your email in for notification when its in. There are also a lot of good beers you can get that are not available here at a lot of those stores. You can get Surly from France 44, Three Floyds from The Beer Temple, and Alesmith from any of the California shops. Some beers you just can't get. Like Heady Topper is not available anywhere outside a small area in Vermont and even there its difficult. I had to pay someone $50 bucks to drive around and stop at stores and grab enough for a case. I ended up spending $130 to get it .