Redskins vs. Cardinals game thread

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by horse

O.k. get it straight, We were in the redzone all game against the saints, the fact we got fgs instead of tds is everyone adjusting to the new scheme. After the 1st drive the giants did'nt do shit, And the refs helped them get that with the bogus PI , Bad as we played we could've pulled it out. We should have one this one by at least 14 if Heyer did'nt want to fight instead of block. Our D has given up no points in the 4th, Which means we're finishing what we start. This team is just getting started. D. Thomas is gonna cause nightmares and Kelly can do the same what a mix of recievers and the tight ends, And the one thing this line has been able to do in recent years is run block. What a half empty view you have, Next wk we beat dallas then you can jump on.

You get it straight- We looked good against NO, but settling for FG's won't win you games. Sure we're adjusting to the scheme. But our offense looked stagnant for a large part of the first half. I love when people name drop our players to me on this site. Like I need a lesson in our personnel. D. Thomas is gonna do this, Kelly is gonna do that, ra ra ra. I learned to stop getting excited when the Redskins draft receivers. Aside from Cooley our last several attempts at pass catchers in the draft have been lousy. I'm in "show me" mode in that department.

Learning the West Coast always takes time. I agree we have great potential, but we're not there yet. I guarantee if we play the caliber of ball game next week that we did today, we will get beaten by Dallas. Same goes for week 5 in Philly. Our run D is poor and I'm worried about the consistent inconsistency of the offense. Although I'm very happy with the tempo we showed in the 2nd half.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by horse

I don't know we seemed to matchup with dallas very well last year and both teams did'nt change much, But I think we changed more for the better. With Zorn they can't just come after us, Cause eventually he'll make them pay. Springs will do a fair job on t.o. So if we can protect JC we can win!!!!!!!!!

Personnel-wise yes, but we apparently aren't a blitzing defense anymore under Blache, we've got a new HC and a totally different offense. Crowd noise doesn't matter nearly as much when you're running between the tackles 35 times a game a la Joe Gibbs.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You get it straight- We looked good against NO, but settling for FG's won't win you games. Sure we're adjusting to the scheme. But our offense looked stagnant for a large part of the first half. I love when people name drop our players to me on this site. Like I need a lesson in our personnel. D. Thomas is gonna do this, Kelly is gonna do that, ra ra ra. I learned to stop getting excited when the Redskins draft receivers. Aside from Cooley our last several attempts at pass catchers in the draft have been lousy. I'm in "show me" mode in that department.

Learning the West Coast always takes time. I agree we have great potential, but we're not there yet. I guarantee if we play the caliber of ball game next week that we did today, we will get beaten by Dallas. Same goes for week 5 in Philly. Our run D is poor and I'm worried the consistent inconsistency of the offense. Although I'm very happy with the tempo we showed in the 2nd half.

That basically sums it up. It will take a heroic defensive effort the next two weeks to give JC and the offense a chance to win the game. Specifically, yes our run defense has to improve markedly, but so does our pass rush (still). Romo and Dono will destroy any defense that can't put serious pressure on them.

[Redskin]

I think we wont have much trouble moving the ball on dallas next week but we have to have the offense on the field and not the defense. We are getting good turnovers this season and that may be the difference in the dallas game.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by The Goat

What impresses me the most right now is that we're winning the games we should win. Sounds simple but it was something we really haven't done in a few years. Now, if we can win 1 of the next 2 games, which realistically should both be losses, we'll be on a completely new level.

Good point. Plus it's nice to be 2-1 while the offense is still a work in progress.

[horse]

Originally Posted by GMScud

You get it straight- We looked good against NO, but settling for FG's won't win you games. Sure we're adjusting to the scheme. But our offense looked stagnant for a large part of the first half. I love when people name drop our players to me on this site. Like I need a lesson in our personnel. D. Thomas is gonna do this, Kelly is gonna do that, ra ra ra. I learned to stop getting excited when the Redskins draft receivers. Aside from Cooley our last several attempts at pass catchers in the draft have been lousy. I'm in "show me" mode in that department.

Learning the West Coast always takes time. I agree we have great potential, but we're not there yet. I guarantee if we play the caliber of ball game next week that we did today, we will get beaten by Dallas. Same goes for week 5 in Philly. Our run D is poor and I'm worried about the consistent inconsistency of the offense. Although I'm very happy with the tempo we showed in the 2nd half.

Well we'll just have to do it next week and shut you up!

[Redskin]

side note nice pick in the dallas game

[horse]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Personnel-wise yes, but we apparently aren't a blitzing defense anymore under Blache, we've got a new HC and a totally different offense. Crowd noise doesn't matter nearly as much when you're running between the tackles 35 times a game a la Joe Gibbs.

True but we seemed to adjust to that to, they started blitzing rocky late and that sealed the game it's work in progress. Besides we played to really good offensive teams. Remember everyone picked us to lose both games.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by horse

Well we'll just have to do it next week and shut you up!

I certainly hope so.

I love my Redskins to death, but I when I talk X's and O's I try to be objective. It's tough, but there are some folks around here who are homers to the point where it severely clouds their football judgement.

[horse]

Originally Posted by The Goat

That basically sums it up. It will take a heroic defensive effort the next two weeks to give JC and the offense a chance to win the game. Specifically, yes our run defense has to improve markedly, but so does our pass rush (still). Romo and Dono will destroy any defense that can't put serious pressure on them.

We are getting there. And I gotta say fitzgerald and boldin scare me more than just t.o. I mean what about our offense against their crappy secondary, C'mon people it's time to believe.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I certainly hope so.

I love my Redskins to death, but I when I talk X's and O's I try to be objective. It's tough, but there are some folks around here who are homers to the point where it severely clouds their football judgement.

To be fair I think your opinion of things is a little slanted towards the glass is half empty view. I think the Skins and JC are better than what you're giving them credit for right now. Are they ready to compete with the heavyweights of the conference yet? I'm not sure... but the next 2 weeks will tell us a lot.

[724Skinsfan]

I loved watching this game without that sinking feeling I tend to get going into the 4th quarter. We're winning but not because we're particularly more lucky than our opponent. Zorn and Blache seem to play with a plan and also adjust based on what's given to them. And here it comes...

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my football team.

[jsarno]

We are a good team that has played good teams to this point. Result 2-1. We are about to play two really good teams, how we play will determine what kind of team we are. I hope we come out as a "really good" team.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by jsarno

We are a good team that has played good teams to this point. Result 2-1. We are about to play two really good teams, how we play will determine what kind of team we are. I hope we come out as a "really good" team.

Perfectly said!

[firstdown]

What I like about yesterday is that our O started out very strong and then went limp in the 2nd qtr. Then we came back out and our O got better as the 2nd half went on just like in the NO game. It seems that we are making good adjustments durn the half time and coming out and winning games.