The Sam Howell Thread

mooby · 11-03-2023, 11:08 AM

https://youtu.be/hSlwfFOIZac?si=hAr34dldNslTMK3L

Greg Cosell (sr. producer at NFL Films) being very complimentary of Sam Howell.

He is getting love from the media, just not from the big names yet. I agree with them. Howell has his flaws but they are fixable.

EdmundDorf · 11-03-2023, 11:38 AM

When Howell has a full season under his belt he should be a lot better, interested to see how he develops between now and then

skinsfaninok · 11-03-2023, 11:55 AM

Jason Kelce "When Howell is on he's hard to stop"

skinsfan69 · 11-03-2023, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamf

You guys comparing Howell and Mahomes?
SH threw 52 check down passes last game.

Sam is playing twinkle twinkle little star on piano while Pat is Mozart.
One is not like the other.

The pat you should be comparing him to is sack machine Patrick Ramsey.

That dime TD to McLaurin was w/ out question a check down. (roll eyes)

skinsfan69 · 11-03-2023, 01:12 PM

If you look at QB's drafted last year, you can argue Sam is better than all of them.

Pickett 1st round
Willis 3rd round
Zappe 4th round
Purdy 7th round
Ridder 3rd round

Chief X_Phackter · 11-03-2023, 01:36 PM

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that they would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.

mooby · 11-03-2023, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that they would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.

Agreed on most, if not all, points.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-03-2023, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

That dime TD to McLaurin was w/ out question a check down. (roll eyes)

Jamf has oil in his eye balls, he can't see that well lol.

KI Skins Fan · 11-03-2023, 04:17 PM

I have a high opinion of Greg Cosell as an evaluator of NFL talent. Greg said "I would definitely be staying with Sam Howell" and I feel somewhat reassured by that.

Speaking of young QBs, I thought Will Levis looked very good against the Steelers defense Thursday night.

mredskins · 11-03-2023, 05:04 PM

Will Levis > Sam Howell

Chief X_Phackter · 11-03-2023, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mredskins

Will Levis > Sam Howell

LOL. After two games against mediocre teams you have come to that conclusion? Ok.

Maybe you're right, but I think I'd give it a few more games...

AnonEmouse · 11-03-2023, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia.

I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that they would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.

Agreed, and why is there this obsession with the idea that an incoming HC will want his own QB? Coaches have come into the job and retained an incumbent QB, and many have had success.

Chico23231 · 11-03-2023, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mredskins

Will Levis > Sam Howell

Ha, masterful

rocnrik · 11-03-2023, 07:04 PM

Here is some truth … We are in the best position since Cousins at the QB position and I’m thinking Sam has a higher ceiling than Cousins ..remember we have NO Running game that scares anyone .. every single D we face knows we are gonna pass .. and pass ! We got RR running the show .. we got a D that has collapsed.. a Suspect Oline … and YET Sam is raising eyebrows with his play … yes he has some gaffs but even the best do … have I said anything that’s not true … correct me if I have !

nonniey · 11-03-2023, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Here is some truth … We are in the best position since Cousins at the QB position and I’m thinking Sam has a higher ceiling than Cousins ..remember we have NO Running game that scares anyone .. every single D we face knows we are gonna pass .. and pass ! We got RR running the show .. we got a D that has collapsed.. a Suspect Oline … and YET Sam is raising eyebrows with his play … yes he has some gaffs but even the best do … have I said anything that’s not true … correct me if I have !

Hope you are right about Howell having a higher ceiling than Cousins because that would put him into the Mahomes, Allen, Burrow territory.

11-03-2023, 11:08 AM	#601
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,349	Re: The Sam Howell Thread https://youtu.be/hSlwfFOIZac?si=hAr34dldNslTMK3L Greg Cosell (sr. producer at NFL Films) being very complimentary of Sam Howell. He is getting love from the media, just not from the big names yet. I agree with them. Howell has his flaws but they are fixable. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

11-03-2023, 11:38 AM	#602
EdmundDorf The Starter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: UK, South Posts: 1,919	Re: The Sam Howell Thread When Howell has a full season under his belt he should be a lot better, interested to see how he develops between now and then

11-03-2023, 11:55 AM	#603
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,999	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Jason Kelce "When Howell is on he's hard to stop" __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

11-03-2023, 01:12 PM	#605
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,143	Re: The Sam Howell Thread If you look at QB's drafted last year, you can argue Sam is better than all of them. Pickett 1st round Willis 3rd round Zappe 4th round Purdy 7th round Ridder 3rd round

11-03-2023, 01:36 PM	#606
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,470	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I've said it before, but I'll say it again, given the less than ideal conditions Sam has operated under, he has looked more than capable of being a really good NFL QB. Imagine if he had a better O-line, a defense that could stop someone, and an OC that didn't have runningameophobia. I don't mind drafting a QB in the later rounds in 2024. I think that would probably make sense if there's one there that they would like to develop. However, if Sam continues to impress and doesn't show any weaknesses that aren't coachable, I'm not a huge fan of the idea of trading up for a QB at the top of the draft.

11-03-2023, 04:17 PM	#609
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,317	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I have a high opinion of Greg Cosell as an evaluator of NFL talent. Greg said "I would definitely be staying with Sam Howell" and I feel somewhat reassured by that. Speaking of young QBs, I thought Will Levis looked very good against the Steelers defense Thursday night.

11-03-2023, 05:04 PM	#610
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,527	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Will Levis > Sam Howell __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

11-03-2023, 07:04 PM	#614
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,589	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Here is some truth … We are in the best position since Cousins at the QB position and I’m thinking Sam has a higher ceiling than Cousins ..remember we have NO Running game that scares anyone .. every single D we face knows we are gonna pass .. and pass ! We got RR running the show .. we got a D that has collapsed.. a Suspect Oline … and YET Sam is raising eyebrows with his play … yes he has some gaffs but even the best do … have I said anything that’s not true … correct me if I have !

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