'No doubt about it,' Redskins need to upgrade at running back

skinsfaninok · 03-09-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What about CJ Anderson when the Broncos cut him

Just looking at rumors and names.

He's better than what we have right now.

skinsfan69 · 03-09-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WillH

AlfMo- 6th round
Thompson - 4th round

Matt Jones - 3rd

Not that AlfMo was a dominant RB, but he was a good one, better than Matt Jones and picked 3 rounds later. Thompson too was a later pick and is an important piece to the offense. Again, better value than Jones.

So, Matt Jones wasn't a first or second round pick and I think that's your point, and I tend to agree that this year's 2nd pick should probably be RB, but I'm just pointing out that if it's not as elite RB I wouldn't ever take them in the first. I'd even give pause to drafting Barkley at 13 depending on ago eke is on the board and who's willing to trade.

Marshawn Lynch is the only elite RB that has won a Superbowl in 15 years and he had some help at QB. It's a passing league, RBs don't last long and just can't impact a team as much as they used to. It's to me a luxury pick to get that elite RB that you make after you're solid across the board.

But yeah, I'd like to get a better back in the 2nd this year.

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Could not agree more. You can find RB's in free agency or later on in the draft. I would never ever draft one in the 1st or 2nd round. There are so many truly great RB's that have not sniffed a SB. The only way I'd draft one high is if he stays on the field on 3rd down, like Portis did. He's the last complete back we've had around here.

WillH · 03-09-2018, 01:28 PM

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Could not agree more. You can find RB's in free agency or later on in the draft. I would never ever draft one in the 1st or 2nd round. There are so many truly great RB's that have not sniffed a SB. The only way I'd draft one high is if he stays on the field on 3rd down, like Portis did. He's the last complete back we've had around here.

Michel likes pass blocking. Just saying...

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Schneed10 · 03-09-2018, 01:28 PM

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Could not agree more. You can find RB's in free agency or later on in the draft. I would never ever draft one in the 1st or 2nd round. There are so many truly great RB's that have not sniffed a SB. The only way I'd draft one high is if he stays on the field on 3rd down, like Portis did. He's the last complete back we've had around here.

And being good enough to bump Thompson out of the 3rd down role is hard to do.

Irrefutable · 03-09-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WillH

Michel likes pass blocking. Just saying...

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he fumbles

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-09-2018, 02:21 PM

In related RB news...

The wisdom of drafting Saquon Barkley No. 1; value free agents - NFL.com

If a great RB is available and he is BPA you draft him where you can get him.

CRedskinsRule · 03-09-2018, 02:40 PM

Torrey Smith traded to the Panthers...
Dagnabit

CRedskinsRule · 03-09-2018, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

In related RB news...

The wisdom of drafting Saquon Barkley No. 1; value free agents - NFL.com

If a great RB is available and he is BPA you draft him where you can get him.

A RB most likely has 4-5years with the first team to draft them, then likely won't see the second contract with the same team. I don't think Elliot is a Cowboy in 2022, unless he takes a seriously undervalued contract. Nearly every other position, if the player is a star, you hope for 8-12, or like Scherff and Williams you hope for 10 to 15.

A RB in the first round has to be a superstar to be worth it. Maybe Barkley is, but most aren't

sevier2 · 03-09-2018, 02:51 PM

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Exactly, Gruden has a totally different relationship with the players than Williams does. Did we already forget the king of coach speak Joe Gibbs? In public he would never say anything bad about his guys. It’s just part of the job.

And if you read between the lines it’s not hard to see what Gruden is really saying.

This sorta thing used to be referred to as "Having Class."

I know it's a foreign idea these days but it use to be as long you were employed or employing someone you kept up a good face towards each other for the sake of the companies reputation.

I for one prefer this type of behavior as apposed to someone such as Hue in Cleveland who likes to publicly take shots at his team/players.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-09-2018, 04:18 PM

If you take a look over the last 15 years also, with the exception of Flacco and Foles all the Super Bowl winners had elite QBs or QBs playing at an elite level, but the way people talk you would think to never take a RB ever, just UDFA every year

30gut · 03-09-2018, 04:26 PM

The running game is only going to reach a certain level with Jay as the HC/OC. And thats okay because hes very creative and efficient with the passing game.

I think giving him a high draft pick RB will only move the run game forward so far especially in comp to how that same pick could help other positions.

I would draft a RB late and not over react to the bad luck the team had with injuries at that position last year.

Giantone · 03-09-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

In related RB news...

The wisdom of drafting Saquon Barkley No. 1; value free agents - NFL.com

If a great RB is available and he is BPA you draft him where you can get him.

I agree and I think that Cleveland has to start to do things to build the rest of that team like a running back.I said before if they don't take him the Giants will. Now they could trade that pick for a whole shit load of picks put who knows. I think if he is gone the Giants trade down in the draft.

sevier2 · 03-09-2018, 06:09 PM

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I agree and I think that Cleveland has to start do things to build the rest of that team like a running back.I said before if they don't take him the Giants will. Now they could trade that pick for a whole shit load of picks put who knows. I think if he is gone the Giants trade down in the draft.

Here's to the Browns doing the smart thing and taking Barkley #1 to keep him OUT of our division.

The giants could easily bounce back next year and I don't even want to think about Barkley, Odell, Shepard and Engram on third downs.

sdskinsfan2001 · 03-09-2018, 08:38 PM

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Here's to the Browns doing the smart thing and taking Barkley #1 to keep him OUT of our division.

The giants could easily bounce back next year and I don't even want to think about Barkley, Odell, Shepard and Engram on third downs.

Just like they picked Wentz to keep him out of the division. Never trust the Browns lol.

CRedskinsRule · 03-10-2018, 12:48 AM

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Here's to the Browns doing the smart thing and taking Barkley #1 to keep him OUT of our division.

The giants could easily bounce back next year and I don't even want to think about Barkley, Odell, Shepard and Engram on third downs.

I would rather they have Barkley then 2 or 3 additional top picks to solidify their OL with.

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30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: 'No doubt about it,' Redskins need to upgrade at running back The running game is only going to reach a certain level with Jay as the HC/OC. And thats okay because hes very creative and efficient with the passing game. I think giving him a high draft pick RB will only move the run game forward so far especially in comp to how that same pick could help other positions. I would draft a RB late and not over react to the bad luck the team had with injuries at that position last year.

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