R.W. McQuarters

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-26-2005, 05:18 PM

Like I said, we did the best we could with Coles. That's the only turd in the bowl in my opinion of this offseason.

I think that Moss IS a nice receiver and we always seem to forget that Patten's YAC is ridiculous. Most of Moss' receptions go for first downs (77%) and Patten's YAC is around 20.0. Taylor Jacobs is poised for a break-out season (or a cut next year). We have Phillip Daniels returning who should provide a great rush and our other ends provided pretty good pressure up front.

The reason I mention our receivers is that I'm not just thinking about our team, I'm also thinking about what's available.

The only receiver in that was available this year that I would have liked to have had was Derrick Mason, but again at what cost? There were options available in the draft but WR wasn't REALLY a position of need. CB definitely was.

When I say we had a great offseason, I like to think of it in the whole picture of things. I'm still concerned about the Campbell pick, but as you said, time will tell about that one.

And also just like you said, we cleared up that we weren't going to overpay. To get the players that you stated that we needed (what was available in the offseason AND in the draft) we would have overpaid in either monetary funds or draft picks.

It's definitely subjective how you view this year's draft, but I think with what was available, ours was a success.

MTK · 05-26-2005, 05:19 PM

Nobody is saying McQuarters is a savior, but let me ask these two questions, is he an upgrade to our depth? Is he better than say, Jimoh and Wilds?

My answer is without a doubt yes to both questions.

Plus the guy is a valuable return man. I don't see what's not to like about picking him up.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-26-2005, 05:20 PM

I also noticed on the WP calendar that your birthday is a week before mine. Rock on October b-days. It's a special year for me, 24.

Well, not really. Just another year closer to 30!

RedskinsJunkie · 05-26-2005, 05:30 PM

Holy cow, I WILL be 30.

Anyway I normally really agree with your posts and I think that is why I love this site, because of good topically discussions.

I really think we had a pretty weak draft. I think we gave up a lot for the 25th pick (And if he is the next Culpepper then GREAT!) and we could have used a solid DE there with tat pick or used the first on a DE, or WR and picked up a good CB with the 25th.

I think WILDS is going to be a hell of a player. He almost shut down Moss last year.

Our WR are avg at best. We don't have to have a number 1 like Owens, Moss, or Holt, but I think we need role players in that position. Hopefully Taylor will pan out but that is a big "?"

I really hope you are right, I am glad we aren't overspending on players, but we have invested and will invest a lot of money in the QB position this year and while it is important we shouldn't have 2 first round QBs and Brunell sucking away all that $$$...

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-26-2005, 08:50 PM

I do agree with what you say about the 25th pick. I definitely think we gave up a lot for Campbell. Draftwise I think we were average. OffSEASONwise I think we did a great job.

mooby · 05-26-2005, 08:59 PM

i like campbell. i don't care what we gave up for him though, because near the draft next year i don't i will hear a lot of complaints that we don't have a first rounder, that is, if the skins do good this season.

RedskinsJunkie · 05-26-2005, 11:12 PM

No way you give up what we did for that pick...

Also we had a OK offseason. We did sign depth but no real studs unless the center we signed will be big for us this year.

I am not saying I don't like Campbell. What I am saying is that we certainly had some choices and routes we could have gone with those 2 picks and I am not sure that we were effective in the draft this year. The pick I like the most is McCunes, considering where we took him and his upside.

I am glad out of the CB available that high we got Rodgers...

But we really could have use D line help and we didn't get it.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-26-2005, 11:16 PM

What I'm saying is based on what WAS available this offseason, we had one of the better offseasons in the league. Getting a stud doesn't define a great offseason. Prior to Gibbs coming back we had plenty of "studs" we took in the offseason and many would rate those as the poorest choices we could have taken. Could we have pursued Moss? Sure, but the price that would go along with him monetarily would have been great. Yes, we might have gotten a stud, but I don't think I would have categorized this offseason as great.

BUT, like I said before, it's VERY subjective.

RedskinsJunkie · 05-27-2005, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

What I'm saying is based on what WAS available this offseason, we had one of the better offseasons in the league. Getting a stud doesn't define a great offseason. Prior to Gibbs coming back we had plenty of "studs" we took in the offseason and many would rate those as the poorest choices we could have taken. Could we have pursued Moss? Sure, but the price that would go along with him monetarily would have been great. Yes, we might have gotten a stud, but I don't think I would have categorized this offseason as great.

BUT, like I said before, it's VERY subjective.

We used to get OLD Studs past their prime... I think YES we finally got away from that...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 05-27-2005, 04:40 AM

No one is saying McQuarters is some stud. But, he'll add depth to a position that requires depth. Williams' system requires at least 3 solid corners (about half of his plays involve 3 CBs). With Rogers, Springs, Harris, McQuarters and youngsters Wilds and Brown, we've got a nice (but not too expensive) stable of corners.

MTK · 05-27-2005, 10:55 AM

Let's be clear here, Hall asked for his release, so let's not pin this on the team as a bad move.

W_REDSKINS · 05-27-2005, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Let's be clear here, Hall asked for his release, so let's not pin this on the team as a bad move.

Who`s pinning anything on the team? Did I say it was a BAD move?

MTK · 05-27-2005, 11:33 AM

So what exactly is your take here, W_Redskins??

cpayne5 · 05-27-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So what exactly is your take here, W_Redskins??

Yeah, really.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-27-2005, 12:49 PM

It's funny reading your last statement and then looking at your avatar.

Sean is like, "Come on baby, CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL..."

05-26-2005, 05:18 PM	#1
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: R.W. McQuarters Like I said, we did the best we could with Coles. That's the only turd in the bowl in my opinion of this offseason. I think that Moss IS a nice receiver and we always seem to forget that Patten's YAC is ridiculous. Most of Moss' receptions go for first downs (77%) and Patten's YAC is around 20.0. Taylor Jacobs is poised for a break-out season (or a cut next year). We have Phillip Daniels returning who should provide a great rush and our other ends provided pretty good pressure up front. The reason I mention our receivers is that I'm not just thinking about our team, I'm also thinking about what's available. The only receiver in that was available this year that I would have liked to have had was Derrick Mason, but again at what cost? There were options available in the draft but WR wasn't REALLY a position of need. CB definitely was. When I say we had a great offseason, I like to think of it in the whole picture of things. I'm still concerned about the Campbell pick, but as you said, time will tell about that one. And also just like you said, we cleared up that we weren't going to overpay. To get the players that you stated that we needed (what was available in the offseason AND in the draft) we would have overpaid in either monetary funds or draft picks. It's definitely subjective how you view this year's draft, but I think with what was available, ours was a success. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-26-2005, 05:19 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Re: R.W. McQuarters Nobody is saying McQuarters is a savior, but let me ask these two questions, is he an upgrade to our depth? Is he better than say, Jimoh and Wilds? My answer is without a doubt yes to both questions. Plus the guy is a valuable return man. I don't see what's not to like about picking him up. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-26-2005, 05:20 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: R.W. McQuarters I also noticed on the WP calendar that your birthday is a week before mine. Rock on October b-days. It's a special year for me, 24. Well, not really. Just another year closer to 30! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-26-2005, 05:30 PM	#4
RedskinsJunkie Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 50 Posts: 128	Re: R.W. McQuarters Holy cow, I WILL be 30. Anyway I normally really agree with your posts and I think that is why I love this site, because of good topically discussions. I really think we had a pretty weak draft. I think we gave up a lot for the 25th pick (And if he is the next Culpepper then GREAT!) and we could have used a solid DE there with tat pick or used the first on a DE, or WR and picked up a good CB with the 25th. I think WILDS is going to be a hell of a player. He almost shut down Moss last year. Our WR are avg at best. We don't have to have a number 1 like Owens, Moss, or Holt, but I think we need role players in that position. Hopefully Taylor will pan out but that is a big "?" I really hope you are right, I am glad we aren't overspending on players, but we have invested and will invest a lot of money in the QB position this year and while it is important we shouldn't have 2 first round QBs and Brunell sucking away all that $$$... __________________ Jimoh--- OH NO!

05-26-2005, 08:50 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: R.W. McQuarters I do agree with what you say about the 25th pick. I definitely think we gave up a lot for Campbell. Draftwise I think we were average. OffSEASONwise I think we did a great job. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-26-2005, 08:59 PM	#6
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,582	Re: R.W. McQuarters i like campbell. i don't care what we gave up for him though, because near the draft next year i don't i will hear a lot of complaints that we don't have a first rounder, that is, if the skins do good this season. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

05-26-2005, 11:12 PM	#7
RedskinsJunkie Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Connecticut Age: 50 Posts: 128	Re: R.W. McQuarters No way you give up what we did for that pick... Also we had a OK offseason. We did sign depth but no real studs unless the center we signed will be big for us this year. I am not saying I don't like Campbell. What I am saying is that we certainly had some choices and routes we could have gone with those 2 picks and I am not sure that we were effective in the draft this year. The pick I like the most is McCunes, considering where we took him and his upside. I am glad out of the CB available that high we got Rodgers... But we really could have use D line help and we didn't get it. __________________ Jimoh--- OH NO!

05-26-2005, 11:16 PM	#8
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: R.W. McQuarters What I'm saying is based on what WAS available this offseason, we had one of the better offseasons in the league. Getting a stud doesn't define a great offseason. Prior to Gibbs coming back we had plenty of "studs" we took in the offseason and many would rate those as the poorest choices we could have taken. Could we have pursued Moss? Sure, but the price that would go along with him monetarily would have been great. Yes, we might have gotten a stud, but I don't think I would have categorized this offseason as great. BUT, like I said before, it's VERY subjective. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-27-2005, 04:40 AM	#10
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: R.W. McQuarters No one is saying McQuarters is some stud. But, he'll add depth to a position that requires depth. Williams' system requires at least 3 solid corners (about half of his plays involve 3 CBs). With Rogers, Springs, Harris, McQuarters and youngsters Wilds and Brown, we've got a nice (but not too expensive) stable of corners.

05-27-2005, 10:55 AM	#11
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Re: R.W. McQuarters Let's be clear here, Hall asked for his release, so let's not pin this on the team as a bad move. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-27-2005, 11:33 AM	#13
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Re: R.W. McQuarters So what exactly is your take here, W_Redskins?? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-27-2005, 12:49 PM	#15
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: R.W. McQuarters It's funny reading your last statement and then looking at your avatar. Sean is like, "Come on baby, CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL..." __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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