The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is.

SmootSmack · 10-20-2011, 11:52 AM

On the other hand, Redskins are 8-1 against the Panthers (I think)

Jontrem · 10-20-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I live in Charlotte, and have to say Cam has been a lighting rod of excitement for Panthers football. Totally different vibe about this team than in the past. saying that, I CANT STAND THEM!

Bottom line, if Cam is able to get some confidence and hit Smith on some deep balls we will be in trouble. He gets hot and he just turns into a different guy. making throws all over the field, running around, and then the offense in general gets hot. They have two VERY capable running backs and we couldn't stop one capable running back last week. Two decent TE in shockey and Olson which Carolina has finally figured out they need to use them.

I hope no one is overlooking these guys. They have been competative with everyone they have played this year. Scores may not indicate it, but they have played hard and passionate football this season (missing key starters) just given up points late in games that deflated them.

Neither stewart or williams compare to McCoy. Hell, add them up and they dont compare. Leshawn (SP?) is one of the most dynamic and dangerous players in the game.

Now having said that our D needs to have a very good game as if Cam gets going it is going to be a tough day for our LBs and DBs as he has arm strength and speed.

freddyg12 · 10-20-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

0-6 in recent years against rookie QBs I believe

dang, if that's right then we've got to be worst in the league.

CRedskinsRule · 10-20-2011, 12:48 PM

I understand Cam is a lot better than I expected him to be out of the gate, but we have film on him, he has to be coming back to reality, and I expect our D to guide him to it. The question remains can the offense do something when they have the ball against an underwhelming defense. I believe we can.

CrustyRedskin · 10-20-2011, 01:06 PM

OLD Redskins: Go down to Carolina and a Rookie QB has the game of his life and makes a mockery of the skins with highlights played all year long on sportscenter.

NEW Redskins: Go down to Carolina and beat a team you shpuld beat fairly easily with few mistakes.

Im 5-0 this year on gut feelings, Skins should rebound but i cant get a good feel on this one.

SkinzWin · 10-20-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the other hand, Redskins are 8-1 against the Panthers (I think)

Before the Panthers sported Cam Newton at the helm. He creates a whole new dynamic that NFL defenses are not used to or prepared for. Like with Michael Vick. Except a better passer. Even vs. a young Vick.

CrazyCanuck · 10-20-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

0-6 in recent years against rookie QBs I believe

great...

freddyg12 · 10-20-2011, 05:51 PM

Smoot was right, 0-6 since 05 v. rookie QBs:

Redskins vs. rookie QBs -- no contest

That has got to be karma for drafting so poorly & not having a franchise qb! Time to turn it around

Meks · 10-21-2011, 01:48 AM

hope we lay better against this weeks running qb... maybe Beck wakes the offense up.

skinsfaninok · 10-21-2011, 06:41 AM

D Williams may not be as good as McCoy but he's still a good rb

hooskins · 10-21-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

0-6 in recent years against rookie QBs I believe

Random stat that doesnt really mean much IMO. Its more of a sign we've been a bad team for some time now.

skinsfaninok · 10-21-2011, 09:14 AM

^ Bingo.. Bad teams lose to everyone not just rookies and we've. Been bad for a while now

freddyg12 · 10-21-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Random stat that doesnt really mean much IMO. Its more of a sign we've been a bad team for some time now.

Agreed on the latter part of your statement, but it's not really a random stat. If nothing else, it shows that you can't take a rookie qb lightly. I'm sure Shanny & Haslett will be using this as motivation.

over the mountain · 10-21-2011, 12:02 PM

im looking forward to getting my first good look at cam. i hope we give him the rude welcome to the NFL it seems he hasnt gotten yet.

hooskins · 10-21-2011, 12:28 PM

Freddy, so you think the Skins have systemically been "relaxing" the weeks they face rookie quarterbacks? Or that when we play rookies the football gods tilt the game in the favor of the rookies? No. We have lost a ton of games and nothing "special" occurs when we play rookies.

A correlation does not mean causation. The sample is way too low and even if it were high doesn't mean much. Ex. people with more literature in their houses tend to have more successful children. Does that mean if you buy a ton of books and leave them in your house your child will be better off? No. Educated folks tend to push their children harder, have access to better opportunities for their kids, etc. therefore their children tend to succeed too. Their kids may love to read, but just reading or access to books isn't what determines success (citation:Freakanomics).

Same applies here. A more telling stat is that since our last Superbowl appearance Skins have been 131-172-1. That is a win percentage a bit over 43% out of 304 games. We aren't even a coin-flip team and this organization has had systemic issues the last 2 decades. Over the long run, with a .57 losing percentage losing 6 games isn't anything. There are so many other variables in each of those games that are not isolated to make any conclusions about an opponents years of experience impacting the win/loss. It's just another pointless "stat" that doesn't show anything.

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CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,382	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. I understand Cam is a lot better than I expected him to be out of the gate, but we have film on him, he has to be coming back to reality, and I expect our D to guide him to it. The question remains can the offense do something when they have the ball against an underwhelming defense. I believe we can.

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CrustyRedskin Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 3,059	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. OLD Redskins: Go down to Carolina and a Rookie QB has the game of his life and makes a mockery of the skins with highlights played all year long on sportscenter. NEW Redskins: Go down to Carolina and beat a team you shpuld beat fairly easily with few mistakes. Im 5-0 this year on gut feelings, Skins should rebound but i cant get a good feel on this one. __________________ Lafayette, we're here. HTTR. You wern't a bunch of losers on 10-27-14.

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freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. Smoot was right, 0-6 since 05 v. rookie QBs: Redskins vs. rookie QBs -- no contest That has got to be karma for drafting so poorly & not having a franchise qb! Time to turn it around

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,113	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. ^ Bingo.. Bad teams lose to everyone not just rookies and we've. Been bad for a while now __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. im looking forward to getting my first good look at cam. i hope we give him the rude welcome to the NFL it seems he hasnt gotten yet. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

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hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is. Freddy, so you think the Skins have systemically been "relaxing" the weeks they face rookie quarterbacks? Or that when we play rookies the football gods tilt the game in the favor of the rookies? No. We have lost a ton of games and nothing "special" occurs when we play rookies. A correlation does not mean causation. The sample is way too low and even if it were high doesn't mean much. Ex. people with more literature in their houses tend to have more successful children. Does that mean if you buy a ton of books and leave them in your house your child will be better off? No. Educated folks tend to push their children harder, have access to better opportunities for their kids, etc. therefore their children tend to succeed too. Their kids may love to read, but just reading or access to books isn't what determines success (citation:Freakanomics). Same applies here. A more telling stat is that since our last Superbowl appearance Skins have been 131-172-1. That is a win percentage a bit over 43% out of 304 games. We aren't even a coin-flip team and this organization has had systemic issues the last 2 decades. Over the long run, with a .57 losing percentage losing 6 games isn't anything. There are so many other variables in each of those games that are not isolated to make any conclusions about an opponents years of experience impacting the win/loss. It's just another pointless "stat" that doesn't show anything.

The Redskins are headed South Fast....To Carolina that is.

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