Rocky Returns

[diehard]

I think everyone is on the same page (or a few pages away) on Rocky. Alexander is in the mix as well right? I heard he was learning ILB too.

[53Fan]

I think it was a good move for depth. I remember Rocky having a hard time getting playing time when he first got here because he couldn't seem to grasp the defense. He definitely has the physical tools. WTH...one year. Might as well.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

we're not going back to the 4-3, and Rocky may not even be on the team come week 1, this signing could be a back up/camp body signing.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

Four most recent games I've seen (Dallas week 1, Green Bay, Minnesota, Jacksonville) all saw the team play about 80% of their defensive snaps with a 3-4 alignment. The only times they went away from it was on obvious passing downs with different 4 man fronts (sometimes 2 man seeing as how they had two or three guys standing up).

I know with Indy they tried some sort of amoeba defense but other then that I'd say they were true to the 3-4 most of the year. Biggest difference though between the first half of the season and the last half came in the amount of blitzing. First half they were extremely aggressive, second half was more bend don't break.

Chicago might have had more 4 man fronts but I'm guessing that based on how that game served as Haynesworth marquee game in 2010.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Maybe one of the folks here who has retained tapes of Redskins' games from last year might have this stat on hand - - or might try to go and get it:


I wonder what percentage of the time on defense that the Redskins lined up in a 3-4 defense last year My guess is less than 60% of the time because I saw them in a 4-3 or a 4-2-5 more than just once in a while.


I do not think that the Redskins were playing 3-4 an overwhelming number of defensive snaps last year.


So - - if you think Rocky might not be ideal for ILB in a 3-4, perhaps that is not what they want to have him do this year. Maybe he is their OLB in the 4-3...???

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

WOW!! Thanks for the info...

I thought it was close to 60% but never would have guessed it was only about half of the snaps for the season.

So, the Skins do not have to "go back to a 4-3 team" this year because they played a lot of "stuff" other than 3-4 last year - - when the excuse for the poor defense was that they had personnel that did not fit the defense they only played half the time.

[Skins4L]

I like having Rocky back for injury insurance too.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

Source. For all I know you're just throwing up numbers, granted I am to but I have a hard time believing it's as low as 51%. Should be at least around 66% (2/3 = .666666)

I mean sure on 3rd downs I would see crazy formations like this


However most of the time (and I don't mean 51% most) I'm seeing some form of this. 3 down lineman, 2 inside backers, 2 standing outside rushers.

[SmootSmack]

I asked. I mean what reason would I have for making it up.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I asked. I mean what reason would I have for making it up.

You're out to get me. All y'all. Watching me and everything. Trying to ruin my reputation and the chance to make billions of dollars with my YouTube videos. You're just a hatter.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just under 51% of the total snaps were in a 3-4 in 2011

How much would that percentage change if you took away the opposing teams punt or field goal attempt plays?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

How much would that percentage change if you took away the opposing teams punt or field goal attempt plays?

That is special teams so I'm guessing that wouldn't count on defensive snaps.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by steveo395

That is special teams so I'm guessing that wouldn't count on defensive snaps.

Right

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Right

Now I'm interested to see numbers like how often the Giants lineup in a 4-3.

Also in retrospect I was wrong about the Green Bay game. We barely ran any 3-4 instead opting mostly for some sort of 3-3 where Orakpo served as the third linebacker up on the LOS.

I mean sometimes they liked to do this thing where they overloaded two outside backers on 1 side and two down lineman on the other with Fletcher playing insde


A lot of the time though I saw this. 3 down lineman, 2 inside backers, and Orakpo on the outside standing up.


So maybe I overestimated the use of the 3-4 against the Packers. However they did use it a lot against the Boys in week 1, the Bucs, and the Jags.