Carson Palmer demands trade, threatens to retire...

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I feel bad for the state of Ohio. It was bad enough that Lebron went through with "The Decision." Now 6 months later Carson Palmer is going through with his own diva act with this trade or retire fiasco.

Still I heard that people are so pissed that they're doing drive by trash dumps on Palmers lawn.

At least they aren't in full on riot mode burning Palmer jerseys in the streets like they did when Bron Bron left.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, Kyle Orton all made it; Colt McCoy and Tebow had strong rookie years; a lot of people are high on Bradford.

Spread QBs can make it, Newton's bigger issue is the system he played in wasn't a particularly standard spread system. It was closer to Urban Meyer's system than Bob Stoops' pro spread.

Bress, Bradford and Ben R. played in 4 and 5 wr sets were the emphasis was throwing the ball downfield, not the type of spread that Florida, Aurburn and Texas run....where the QB is running just as much as he's passing. McCoy didn't play in a true forward pass type of offense. The jury is still out of Tebow and McCoy. Both guys have only played in a handful of games.

I remember watching Heath Shuler in college and he played in the same kind of offense that McCoy did and that's who McCoy reminds me of.

[BuckSkin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I feel bad for the state of Ohio. It was bad enough that Lebron went through with "The Decision." Now 6 months later Carson Palmer is going through with his own diva act with this trade or retire fiasco.

Still I heard that people are so pissed that they're doing drive by trash dumps on Palmers lawn.

Ohio will be fine without Palmer... Head west young man. The Bengals will just play his kid brother. OSU basketball isn't bad either.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

Ohio will be fine without Palmer... Head west young man. The Bengals will just play his kid brother. OSU basketball isn't bad either.

Speaking of full riot mode and burning jerseys....

Jay Cutler is already getting lit up. Literally!!

[BuckSkin]

Is that a pile of crap on Cutler's jersey?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by BuckSkin

Is that a pile of crap on Cutler's jersey?

I don't think so, but look a the magazine page the guy is handing him to use as a fire starter. Definitely something most men take to a football game?!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bress, Bradford and Ben R. played in 4 and 5 wr sets were the emphasis was throwing the ball downfield, not the type of spread that Florida, Aurburn and Texas run....where the QB is running just as much as he's passing. McCoy didn't play in a true forward pass type of offense. The jury is still out of Tebow and McCoy. Both guys have only played in a handful of games.

I remember watching Heath Shuler in college and he played in the same kind of offense that McCoy did and that's who McCoy reminds me of.

Your going to be wrong on Tebow, guy is a STAR in the making..

Cam is raw no doubt but he has all the tools to be like a "BIG BEN" type qb.

And thats a bush league excuse.. Spread is a spread.

Sam Bradford ran a SPREAD, also won a heisman and I think he turned out pretty good right?

[wilsowilso]

No freaking way!

Carson Palmer?

No more old players.

Young players.

Let me repeat.

YOUNG PLAYERS.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yeah, I've written this elsewhere, but I would definitely go after Carson Palmer, when Palmer comes available. There's a point at which the price may go too high, but I doubt there will be a better player on the market in the next two years at the QB position. Andrew Luck excluded.

Why would you go after Palmer? He has looked like crap the past two seasons. He is an interception machine. I would rather hang on to Donovan than bring Palmer in here. Sure the Bengals are a messed up organization, but so are the Skins, til they really prove that they are turning the ship around. Palmer had a lot of talent to work with and he just sucked this past season. Yeah, both Ocho and TO sucked at the end of the season, but TO put up really good numbers til like week 12. At least Donovan could get to the big dance, Palmer hasn't come close for awhile.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

No freaking way!

Carson Palmer?

No more old players.

Young players.

Let me repeat.

YOUNG PLAYERS.

Exactly. Besides there might be no football next year so instead of getting a 31 year old Palmer we would really be running the risk of having a 32 year old that will turn 33 late in the season.

[SkinItup]

I'll take palmer for haynesworth

[GusFrerotte]

Why, that would be giving up a beast for an overrated QB!! You wouldn't be getting a fair trade on that(AH for Palmer). Guy has been surrounded by talent his entire career and rarely has done anything in term of winning titles, division or otherwise.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Speaking of full riot mode and burning jerseys....

Jay Cutler is already getting lit up. Literally!!

Guy deserves to get lit up. The 3rd stringer showed more talent and heart than Cutler did on Championship Sunday.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Just for giggles, here are the QBs who have won the Heisman Trophy in the last 50 years.

Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Troy Smith
Matt Leinart
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerfel
Charlie Ward
Gino Toretta
Ty Detmer
AndreWare
Vinny Testeverde
Doug Flutie
Pat Sullivan
Jim Plunkett
Gary Beban - - drafted by the Redskins by the way
Steve Spurrier
John Huarte
Roger Staubach
Terry Baker


The jury is still out on Bradford, Tebow, Troy Smith, Leinart and Palmer. Of the retired ones, only Plunkett and Staubach amounted to much in the NFL.


Touting a QB as anything close to a "sure thing" for the pros based on his winning the Heisman Trophy is not supported by data.

[ethat001]

Agreed, no sense in getting Palmer. If we wanted an old washed up QB who was pretty good a couple of years ago -- we could stick with McNabb.