Pluses and Minuses: Bills vs Redskins

[KLHJ2]

Matty if this were his first time trying to shake the injury bug I would have no problems. Right now I want them to hold him down and give him the needle. Some cortisone ought to do the trick.

[MTK]

If he can't get on the field you just cut him loose. But forcing the issue doesn't do anyone any favors.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If he can't get on the field you just cut him loose. But forcing the issue doesn't do anyone any favors.

I'm game, then we can stop talking about it. Until that happens though he is the only player not participating and it is going to draw attention.

[tryfuhl]

Don't forget Mike Furrey! What do you mean draw attention? Everyone knows about it.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Don't forget Mike Furrey! What do you mean draw attention? Everyone knows about it.

Yeah, we are going to have a conversation about Mike Furrey's inability to participate.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Angry

Yeah, we are going to have a conversation about Mike Furrey's inability to participate.

haha

might as well cut him now IMO

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

haha

might as well cut him now IMO

I agree, I didn't like that we brought him in in the first place.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Angry

I agree, I didn't like that we brought him in in the first place.

why? he didn't keep any young studs from getting signed

[12thMan]

I think Kelly makes the team still.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I think Kelly makes the team still.

You might be right I think if the FO didn't think he had something to offer they would of cut him already.

HTTR.

[skinsfan69]

Although I think Hall isn't worth the $ and he's probably an average cover corner, he still is our best play maker in the secondary. I don't think I've seen him ever drop an Int. Dude has great hands.

[SBXVII]

Saden1, I agree with you on all counts except that I did have confidence in K.Shanahan. He's a proven commodity. He proved himself in Houston. My concern was would his pass happy offense gel with his fathers run happy offense? I was worried we would end up with the Gibb2/Saunders failed expierment. Although Gibbs used a man to man blocking style and Saunders used zone I believe. So knowing both Shanahan's used zone blocking probably wouldn't be as big a deal. It seemed to work out fine.

Pluses:
Finally an offensive scheme.
2 QB's capable of leading the offense.
Better protection from the OL.
WR's who seemed to know what they were doing.
No major injuries.

Minuses:
We played the Bills.
1st team defense needs tweeking. (better push off the line)
1st team offense needs tweeking. (dirt balls, over throws, redzone running)
special teams blocking.

We played the Bills folks. Lets see what we have after Sat. when we play a play off team from last yr. Defense- did Kemo play? was he not getting a good enough push off the line? It would be nice to have him and AH to switch out often since AH gets tired quickly. I'm sure the offensive issues will get corrected by game 1. Special Teams.... what can I say, I'm not a fan of our position coach there. I'd like to have seen him fired also but it is what it is. It did look somewhat different though. the KR was not catching the ball with the opposing team in his face all the time.

People are quick to praise Banks and then say he needs to work on his holding on to the ball. I saw his muff but he did recover and tried to make a play. Didn't Thomas do the same thing on the first kick off to us? or was that someone else? In a nut shell they looked 99% better then .... well .... almost 20 yrs. To me that is. I guess we will be better able to critique them after Sat. game but everything looked better. Scheme, routes, play calls, runs, passes, blocking, defensive pass rush, LB's, interception, KR. Maybe it's just me and a whole new start from top to bottom but they did remind me of Skins of old. Say Gibbs1. Even though they seemed to throw many plays out there I just get the feeling there was a lot held back still. I've always like Shanahan's thought process..... "this is my scheme, it's a great scheme, I have many weapons, I'll show you my plays, you just have to find a way to stop it."

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Saden1, I agree with you on all counts except that I did have confidence in K.Shanahan. He's a proven commodity. He proved himself in Houston. My concern was would his pass happy offense gel with his fathers run happy offense? I was worried we would end up with the Gibb2/Saunders failed expierment. Although Gibbs used a man to man blocking style and Saunders used zone I believe. So knowing both Shanahan's used zone blocking probably wouldn't be as big a deal. It seemed to work out fine.

I think for the most part this is Kyle Shanahan's offense we're seeing. I'm sure Mike has some input, but this is Kyle's show.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think for the most part this is Kyle Shanahan's offense we're seeing. I'm sure Mike has some input, but this is Kyle's show.

There are a lot of similarities to Denver's offense though...moving the QB out of the pocket and having receivers (including TE) at various depths right in front of the QB. Also, the pulling linemen and straight-ahead running game.

Not surprising if Kyle's system mirrors his father's though. But you're right, Kyle is calling the shots...even if he learned from his father.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buster

There are a lot of similarities to Denver's offense though...moving the QB out of the pocket and having receivers (including TE) at various depths right in front of the QB. Also, the pulling linemen and straight-ahead running game.

Not surprising if Kyle's system mirrors his father's though. But you're right, Kyle is calling the shots...even if he learned from his father.

Oh yeah no doubt there are similarities. I was just making the point there's no melding of systems like we saw with Gibbs/Saunders or Zorn's passing game mixed with Gibbs' running game.