ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by redskins202

1: You haven't seen the 08-09 Jason Candle have you?.

2: It doesn't mean we want to keep him it means we are shopping to see what we can get for him. Honestly this is 70% chance Candle will not be back.

3: You would let Jason Candle come back and end up leaving than to get a 4th round pick which could help us pick up a Tackle or G or what ever?.

4: It wouldn't mean nothing we will regardless get a QB with more picks.


I mean I'm still shocked your saying we aren't better off with him. Do you believe Joe Montana-Steve Young- Bret Favre wouldnt give us a better record than 4-12?

Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)


I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.

We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!

I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential. No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.

Originally Posted by redskins202

I recorded every tape and seen this guy to know he isn't it.

Try watching them, please.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If they tender him at the 1st and 3rd level, that's just the starting off point for negotiations. It doesn't mean that he can only be dealt for a 1st and 3rd.

Do you think they would take a 2nd for him? I think they might if they get one. It's possible. I'm not sure a team would give up a second though.

I do think MS's plan is to keep JC and draft a QB to sit for a year.

Purely for speculation, If you do get a 2nd for JC, you'd have a 1st and 2 2nds. Trading down we could potentially have a later 1st and 3 2nds or 2 2nds and a 3rd.

4 potential draft picks in the 1st two rounds would be a good thing. That could fill some holes. We'd be sacrificing by not having an experienced QB in 2010. There are some qb's on the market though that could fill that role. Hey, i know, I'm bored.

[Dirtbag59]

All right well since we'll never get rid of the Campbell/Bradford/etc debate for another year maybe it's best to go to the thing that doesn't lie. "Film" or in this case highlights. Here's JC at his best. Is he a franchise QB or a just a really good QB?:





On a side note it's amazing how good we were at running left.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Hell if we got a 1st and 3rd for him I'd vote for Obama in 2012.

I almost peed a little hahahaha

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

we would never get a 1st and 3rd for him, tender him for something we would get for him like a 3rd or 4th

You don't understand tenders.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Buster

Here we go again with the candle crap...do you realize NO ONE is going to take anything you say seriously with that immaturity? (not that your points are valid and unbiased anyways)


I do believe we should draft a Tackle with that #4 pick. Even if we get Bradford or Claussen, they won't be able to develop without a solid line. Think David Carr.

We won't get a 1st and 3rd for Campbell from anyone, so even speculating about a trade like this is pointless. Our best bet for success is to build up the line and let Campbell run Shanny's offense, which is tailor-made for his skillset. Shanahan's offense is run-heavy but the QB's role is made easy for a mobile QB to succeed. He likes to use half of the field and roll out the QB a lot. When tjhe QB rolls out, he'll have 3 routes being run at different depths right in front of him...so the progressions are as easy as counting 1-2-3 as the QB looks at all open options right in front of him. If no one is immediately open, the QB can take off, something that Campbell does better than most QBs in the league. He just needs to learn how to slide!

I think JC will be highly successful in this offense IF we have an offensive line and running game, which could come with the rebuilding of the line. With out first two picks at least, we need a Tackle and a Center/Guard. Rabach is backup material and cost us far too many points and possessions. After that, draft a RB and LB. If LeFevour is around in rounds 4-6, get him to groom as the #2 QB and to compete with Colt Brennan, who may not even make the team if we get someone like LeFevour. Late picks, get more depth at OL, LB and maybe even a CB with last-round potential. No more "best available" picks...we have specific and vital needs this year that Vinny and his crew ignored for years.

What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I doubt Jason has any trade value. The tender is irrelevant so they might as well make it for a trillion $ and a toilet made of solid gold. He'll either be cut if Shanny & Co find a true starter or he'll just compete for a spot on the team.

Realistically he's a Redskin for another year; however, it's not realistic to expect him to start all season. When Jason gets out of rhythm he's totally ineffective, struggling even to complete the basic stuff. Shanny will bench him in a heartbeat.

The more I think about Jason's future it's actually easy to see him out of the league not too long from now. One thing we know is he thinks he's far better than he really is...always asserting he is unquestionably a starter in this league. We also know most, if not all, franchises do not see him as a starter. If he's unwilling to meet his likely destiny on the bench somewhere I can see him just calling it good.

As much bad rep as he gets for not being vocal.. if he said "we'll have to see if the coaches think that I'm an NFL starter" that would be career suicide

[hail_2_da_skins]

His name is Jason Campbell, not Candle. How can you call yourself a Redskin fan with this kind of crap. I used to call Tony Romo, Homo. Romo is a Cowboy, so its understandable. Out of respect for some of my Cowboy friends, I stop doing it. It's disrespectful. It doesn't matter if you like the guy or not, its wrong. Stop it.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by redskins202

1: You haven't seen the 08-09 Jason Candle have you?.

2: It doesn't mean we want to keep him it means we are shopping to see what we can get for him. Honestly this is 70% chance Candle will not be back.

3: You would let Jason Candle come back and end up leaving than to get a 4th round pick which could help us pick up a Tackle or G or what ever?.

4: It wouldn't mean nothing we will regardless get a QB with more picks.


I mean I'm still shocked your saying we aren't better off with him. Do you believe Joe Montana-Steve Young- Bret Favre wouldnt give us a better record than 4-12?

sooooooo

how long is your ban over at ES? I'm sure that they miss your insight

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by redskins202

He's AVG............and come on...did you see his pick 6 against the Giants game?. How does he mis-throw a pass for a pick 6???does any body else make an mistake like that?.
YouTube - Jason Candle (Jason Campbell) Geico Commercial


^^^Candle. And its 70% chance because.

1: Bills-Rams-Vikes-Cards-Jags-Oak- all could use a QB who thinls can be good so look for one of them to atleast offer a 3rd.

2: If we go Bradford look for Campbell to not come back.

70% in my view. 0% unless Candle thinks he can perform for us as just a back up than yea sure.

So "Jason Candle" is the first player to throw a pick 6, it's in the books

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???

It's just dumb, not even funny

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???

Ok I get it the GEICO commercial. Hilarity ensues, not.

[Monkeydad]

All of this discussion will be moot when the Rams take Bradford at #1 anyways.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

What is with the Candle thing? Is it a misspelling, igronance, a joke???

Ignorance with a side of stupidity.

[redskins202]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you are exaggerating on Campbell's abilities, especially when you see analysts say thing like this...

NFL: The Carolina Panthers have depth problems at wide receiver - ESPN

Thats an ESPN writer writing that lol. Listen to the other NFL analysts who commented Campbell all game long. Did you hear Chris Collinsworth all game about Campbell on the Cowboys game? he thought Campbell wasn't a starter in his own words.


Its ok tho as long as we draft a QB for the future .