Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The offensive line's struggles are too often a crutch or an excuse for Campbell's own struggles.

I struggle with this because I know it's not really Campbell's fault where he was drafted. But you don't trade multiple picks to get into the first round to draft a QB that can play well if everything around him is running smoothly. You spend a 6th round pick on a QB out of Washington State to do that.

Agreed, but it's not like our O-line is just below average. They are absolutely god awful. Most of the time he doesn't even have time to plant his back foot. You mentioned in an earlier post (I think in the Smackdown thread) about Jason rushing throws and missing throws. It's kind of understandable that he would rush his progressions at times with the lack of protection he's had.

See, with Jason, the problem has been we're always switching systems, and when we decide to stick with a system, we provide him with an out and out joke of an O-line. We've set him up to fail repeatedly. I absolutely want to see what he can do in 2010 under Shanahan and a with a GM who will put a premium on finding him some protection.

[SmootSmack]

Last week they were god awful, but earlier in the year they were below-average to average and, to me at least, there were times that Campbell had more than enough time to make a play and didn't

[GMScud]

To be clear, I'm not saying we should lock up Jason with a long-term deal. I just don't think there is anyone out there, rookie or FA, who can do any better for us in 2010.

[CrazyCanuck]

No.

Ive been wavering back and forth all season on Campbell. Part of me thinks he can be decent with a good o-line and running game. But the fact is everything seems to move slower with JC. Too long in the pocket, too long in his progressions...

Put JC on a good team with a good o-line and he could probably be successful. But unfortunately that's not our team right now and I don't want to wait another 3 years to confirm that JC is average.

[birdz4gibbs]

i would have to go with yes but it up to the new regime.
what matty said..110%.

[redsk1]

I voted yes, but he's not our answer at qb. If we're drafting a guy then maybe he can backup for a 1/2 year-1 year. We don't have ANY other option at qb on the roster right now either.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

No.

Ive been wavering back and forth all season on Campbell. Part of me thinks he can be decent with a good o-line and running game. But the fact is everything seems to move slower with JC. Too long in the pocket, too long in his progressions...

Put JC on a good team with a good o-line and he could probably be successful. But unfortunately that's not our team right now and I don't want to wait another 3 years to confirm that JC is average.

Where is everyone getting this three years stuff from? 2010 is the year in question. Nothing beyond.

For all the "NO" people out there, who do you want that could be any better?

We already know we have a solid but unspectacular QB in Campbell. I think most people agree that with our receiving corps improving, if we give JC a decent line and running game he can be a lot better. What if we don't bring him back and use a high first rounder on a QB that ends up being a bust? Top QB draft choices are a huge roll of the dice. If we miss on one and let Campbell walk, it could set us back a lot more than three years.

[DynamiteRave]

No.

I'm tired of mediocrity. This entire team needs an overhaul, including the QB.

JC is just going to end up being the second coming of Patrick Ramsey.

...That's right I said it.

[MTK]

I really think he will be back, but there will be a rookie in the mix for beyond 2010 or someone will be brought in via a trade.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I really think he will be back, but there will be a rookie in the mix for beyond 2010 or someone will be brought in via a trade.

100% agree. No one will do a better job for us 2010 than JC, but we have to have a plan in place if he doesn't improve. This is what I think will happen, and I think it's the right move.

[Zerohero]

go ahead and blow our first pick on a qb, but give a year or two as backup. so i voted to keep JC. as much as he sucks, he is the best we have right now.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Where is everyone getting this three years stuff from? 2010 is the year in question. Nothing beyond.

For all the "NO" people out there, who do you want that could be any better?

We already know we have a solid but unspectacular QB in Campbell. I think most people agree that with our receiving corps improving, if we give JC a decent line and running game he can be a lot better. What if we don't bring him back and use a high first rounder on a QB that ends up being a bust? Top QB draft choices are a huge roll of the dice. If we miss on one and let Campbell walk, it could set us back a lot more than three years.

What if the QB turns out to be great but we didnt take him because we tied ourselves to JC? Like I said, the potential reward of a new QB far outweighs being stuck with JC.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

To be clear, I'm not saying we should lock up Jason with a long-term deal. I just don't think there is anyone out there, rookie or FA, who can do any better for us in 2010.

Hmmm. I see that maybe I wasn't clear in my original post. When I was asking if people wanted him back in 2010, I wasn't speaking of only for 2010. I meant 2010 and beyond.

I guess, to put it another way, should we continue with Jason Campbell at all or just move on. That's what I meant by "no caveats" Fish or cut bait basically

Sorry for the confusion

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Truth is the skins are nowhere near superbowl contention moreless NFC East Champs next couple of years. Is time really a factor it's obvious he doesn't have protect now why place a high dollar investment in danger. When you have a guy that is first round draft that has shown his talent doesn't have a 30+ million dollar contract hasn't had the proper tools around him from day one. The WR corp sucked when he took over the team for Brunell, the line has been injured & subpar every year since he has taken over.

While I agree the Skins are nowhere near a Super Bowl contender, looking at the state of the NFC East, I believe they are within 3 years of winning the division, given that Allen and Shanny make the necessary moves to fill the holes.

I bolded your last sentence because I feel it's a pretty weak argument. For one, here are the WRs that were around when Campbell took the reins from Brunell in 2006: Moss, Randle El, Lloyd, Cooley, Thrash. 3 of those 5 guys are still around and the other 2 pieces have been improved in my opinion (Kelly, Thomas). Add Davis, and Campbell has it better now than he did in 2006.

As far as the O-Line goes, you can argue it's been subpar but you can argue that is has been adequate at times as well (Not this year). However, that comes and goes with the territory. An above average QB (see Rodgers, Aaron this year) can overcome a horrible O-Line.

How many more years of an average QB can the Redskins endure waiting for Campbell to find his spark? Other QBs have wasted no time proving that they are worthy of taking the reins. And while I want nothing more than Campbell to succeed, I just don't see it happening as a Redskin.

[irish]

Originally Posted by GMScud

100% agree. No one will do a better job for us 2010 than JC, but we have to have a plan in place if he doesn't improve. This is what I think will happen, and I think it's the right move.

If JC played for another team and the Skins were talking about bringing him here for 2010 99% of the people on this site would be screaming bloody murder.