Dockery Cut:

SmootSmack · 02-26-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Good to hear. It's a logical fit. I he comes back, I wonder if we'll let Kendall walk...

I haven't looked at the numbers but I might let Thomas walk. Kendall isn't going to be in high demand so I'd keep him around as a relatively cheap backup. Thomas worries me, coming off major neck and back surgery.

But if we bring in Dockery to be our LG again, and then let's say draft Oher put him at RT and maybe slide Jansen inside? or Smith and keep Jansen outside?

Either way, the Redskins have the upper hand here. They let Dockery walk for big, big money...and now he's the one out of a job.

Monkeydad · 02-26-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think we let Kendall walk if we think Jansen can be a good backup guard/Tackle.

If we get Dock, I think we can completely turn our offensive line around in two years:

2009 Starters
LT: Samuels
LG: Dockery
C: Rabach
RG: Thomas
RT: Andre Smith (worth the risk if he's there at 13)

2009 Backups
Heyer - T
Jansen - G, T
Rinehart - G
Geisinger - C

2010 Starters
LT: Smith
LG: Dockery
C: Geisinger/UFA/Draft Pick
RG: Rinehart/UFA/Draft Pick
RT: Samuels

I like it.

Ruhskins · 02-26-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think we let Kendall walk if we think Jansen can be a good backup guard/Tackle.

If we get Dock, I think we can completely turn our offensive line around in two years:

2009 Starters
LT: Samuels
LG: Dockery
C: Rabach
RG: Thomas
RT: Andre Smith (worth the risk if he's there at 13)

2009 Backups
Heyer - T
Jansen - G, T
Rinehart - G
Geisinger - C

2010 Starters
LT: Smith
LG: Dockery
C: Geisinger/UFA/Draft Pick
RG: Rinehart/UFA/Draft Pick
RT: Samuels

BHA, what other rookie lineman could you see starting right away? Btw, I like your shorter posts

Dirtbag59 · 02-26-2009, 02:46 PM

For once a resounding yes.

Alright heres the plan.

FA: Chris Cantry DE/DT, Derrick Dockery LG, Andre Smith Draft, 3rd round OLB.

The Goat · 02-26-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I think we let Kendall walk if we think Jansen can be a good backup guard/Tackle.

If we get Dock, I think we can completely turn our offensive line around in two years:

2009 Starters
LT: Samuels
LG: Dockery
C: Rabach
RG: Thomas
RT: Andre Smith (worth the risk if he's there at 13)

2009 Backups
Heyer - T
Jansen - G, T
Rinehart - G
Geisinger - C

2010 Starters
LT: Smith
LG: Dockery
C: Geisinger/UFA/Draft Pick
RG: Rinehart/UFA/Draft Pick
RT: Samuels

Good stuff BHA... it would be nice to get Brown in to replace Rabach this year but that's asking a lot.

ChickenMonkey · 02-26-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

For once a resounding yes.

Alright heres the plan.

FA: Chris Cantry DE/DT, Derrick Dockery LG, Andre Smith Draft, 3rd round OLB.

Im with you on this one, except for Andre Smith...

FA: Chris Cantry DE/DT, Derrick Dockery LG, (Jamon Meredith OT) Draft, 3rd round OLB.[/quote]

firstdown · 02-26-2009, 02:56 PM

I like to see him back and I think it helps when guys go else where for the big money then find themself out of a job it makes what they had look that much better. So if we do sign hime I guess we will here the same stuff. I should not have chased the money, I wasn't really happy playing there, I really missed the fans, I know there are some more standard lines that I'm missing.

SmootSmack · 02-26-2009, 02:59 PM

I think this Dockery news suddenly puts Hall on the backburner, though they'd still like to keep him of course.

CRedskinsRule · 02-26-2009, 03:06 PM

so if a player is cut, can we talk to him before friday, or is that still tampering

horse · 02-26-2009, 03:06 PM

I say **** him, We gave him his shot a put up with all his mistakes while he was learning. Just so he could take off soon as a big offer came. I'll stick with Kendall.

Dirtbag59 · 02-26-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Im with you on this one, except for Andre Smith...

FA: Chris Cantry DE/DT, Derrick Dockery LG, (Jamon Meredith OT) Draft, 3rd round OLB.

[/quote]

What? No, we're suppose to agree with each other all the time. This isn't a debate site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by horse

I say **** him, We gave him his shot a put up with all his mistakes while he was learning. Just so he could take off soon as a big offer came. I'll stick with Kendall.

What? He was offered a chance for financial security and took it. You're telling me that if you weren't in his position you wouldn't take the money. On top of that teams are suppose to develop talent in order to win, it's not like we got nothing out of him. Hell theres a reason so many people here want him back.

Skinsfanatic · 02-26-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by horse

I say **** him, We gave him his shot a put up with all his mistakes while he was learning. Just so he could take off soon as a big offer came. I'll stick with Kendall.

do you still have a nose?

FRPLG · 02-26-2009, 03:10 PM

I think we should bring him back in ala Smoot. To me the interesting thing here is how cheap the Bills are. They are only saving 450,000 against the cap so obviously they are just cutting him to avoid the cash bonus. It doesn't even make sense otherwise.

KLHJ2 · 02-26-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

so if a player is cut, can we talk to him before friday, or is that still tampering

If he is cut then he isn't on anyones roster. There is no tampering.

BigHairedAristocrat · 02-26-2009, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

BHA, what other rookie lineman could you see starting right away? Btw, I like your shorter posts

LOL, i do have a tendancy to get wordy.

I think any of the "Big 4" could start right away, although no one at 13 could play LT right away (I want to move samuels to the right side ASAP).

IF we trade down to below the 20th pick, I think Britton, Beatty, and Troy Kopog could possibly start right away at RT and be an upgrade over jansen and Heyer, but neither of them seems to have the potential to develop into a "franchise" RT, let alone LT.

Duke Robinson could start at guard right away, but if we get Dockery, i dont see us being interested... unless we gave him a shot at Tackle, but thats risky.

Obviously, I like some of the centers available, but i dont think we can really afford to address that position this year.

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Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Dockery Cut: For once a resounding yes. Alright heres the plan. FA: Chris Cantry DE/DT, Derrick Dockery LG, Andre Smith Draft, 3rd round OLB. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-26-2009, 02:56 PM	#52
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Dockery Cut: I like to see him back and I think it helps when guys go else where for the big money then find themself out of a job it makes what they had look that much better. So if we do sign hime I guess we will here the same stuff. I should not have chased the money, I wasn't really happy playing there, I really missed the fans, I know there are some more standard lines that I'm missing.

02-26-2009, 02:59 PM	#53
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Dockery Cut: I think this Dockery news suddenly puts Hall on the backburner, though they'd still like to keep him of course. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-26-2009, 03:06 PM	#54
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,382	Re: Dockery Cut: so if a player is cut, can we talk to him before friday, or is that still tampering

02-26-2009, 03:06 PM	#55
horse Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: long island Posts: 898	Re: Dockery Cut: I say **** him, We gave him his shot a put up with all his mistakes while he was learning. Just so he could take off soon as a big offer came. I'll stick with Kendall. __________________ Hail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02-26-2009, 03:10 PM	#58
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Dockery Cut: I think we should bring him back in ala Smoot. To me the interesting thing here is how cheap the Bills are. They are only saving 450,000 against the cap so obviously they are just cutting him to avoid the cash bonus. It doesn't even make sense otherwise.

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