Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year...

over the mountain · 12-19-2008, 03:05 PM

haha pierce looked like a straight up nerd in that video. i get more love and attention from strippers and i dont have a few million in the bank. . . all pawing on the girl and she was turning her back to him . . . haha what a bama.

sportscurmudgeon · 12-19-2008, 05:54 PM

If the difference was nothing more than a $6M signing bonus vs a $4M signing bonus then that would have to be the only time in Danny Boy's ownership where a couple of million dollars kept the Skins from getting/keeping a player "they really wanted".

Something here does not ring true.

When the Skins sign a free agent away from another team for big bucks, usually the player says it was just a business matter - - and given what the Skins pay for some free agents that makes a lot of sense. Same thing happens when other players sign with new teams.

So Pierce "made this personal". Question is why?

Maybe he's a nasty person at the core - - but then how would Joe Gibbs have thought he was a "core Redskin"? Remember, Gibbs values people who are pure of heart.

Or maybe the wheeling and dealing tried by the FO at the time of those contract negotiations got under his skin and he thought the team was "disrespectful" - - whatever the hell that means.

Too many players leave the Redskins feeling "disrespected" or "not wanted" as compared to folks around the league. Pierce, Coles, Arrington, Bailey, B-Mitch come to mind. Other Redskins who left on less than fully positive terms include Bobby Mitchell - - merely a Hall of Famer who had been with the Skins in one capacity or another for about 40 years.

Where there's smoke, there just may be a fire...

SmootSmack · 12-19-2008, 06:35 PM

It's in large part because many players feel like since the Redskins have been known to sign large contracts for some players they should just do it for everyone. Of course, let's just ignore all the players that stay or even come back. Plus B-Mitch technically came back as well I believe, and Bailey's problems were his own.

Giantone · 12-19-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

You're leaving out the main part Giantone. I said he basically comes across as a jerk. He was one of my favorite players until he got a big head and started acting like a prima donna. I feel the same way about him leaving as any other player. If you don't want to play for the Redskins, fine, seeya. But there is no need to badmouth the team after you leave. He wasn't treated badly. And that BS with Kendall in our first game just shows what he has become. Even after the Super Bowl he acted like a moron. "PUT THAT IN YOUR PAPERS! WRITE THAT." Please. Real Classy. There's no need to be upset with us because your team is going in the toilet Giantone. I can promise you we had nothing to do with it.

Nope I didn't leave anything out,as sportscurmudgeon said........"Too many players leave the Redskins feeling "disrespected" or "not wanted" as compared to folks around the league. Pierce, Coles, Arrington, Bailey, B-Mitch come to mind. Other Redskins who left on less than fully positive terms include Bobby Mitchell - - merely a Hall of Famer who had been with the Skins in one capacity or another for about 40 years.

Where there's smoke, there just may be a fire..."
11-3 and our season is in the toilet...LOL.....dam I hope we're this bad all the time.

Fact the Skins are notorious for paying other teams free agents more money then their own and that is what makes them leave.How much is Jason Taylor making yet what has he done for the Skins,does Andre Carter make as much,he's sure as hell played better and more.

Giantone · 12-19-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's in large part because many players feel like since the Redskins have been known to sign large contracts for some players they should just do it for everyone. Of course, let's just ignore all the players that stay or even come back. Plus B-Mitch technically came back as well I believe, and Bailey's problems were his own.

Just treat them all the same way,it's fair.The discussion was about AP leaving...nobody is forgetting or ignoring anyone.Pretty sure B-Mitch came to the only team that would have him and could you expand about Bailey,what were "his" problems?

53Fan · 12-19-2008, 10:02 PM

My opinion that Pierce is a jerk has nothing to do with B-Mich, Bailey, Arrington or anyone else. T.O. never played for the Redskins and I think he's a jerk too. If you like him fine. I don't.

DarkKnight · 12-20-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

that make it ok in your world? everybody else does it?

doesnt bother me, that his business, that problem with everyone, think just because, someone isnt doing, or living the way you think they should, then there wrong........thats no of your business,....thats between him and his wife. what you give a **** for?

DarkKnight · 12-20-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

What's up with the Falcons avatar? You jump ship already?

Jump ship? nah playboy, since we out, then I am supporting a franchise, that went through hell, and is making it happen, but to make you feel better, last time I checked.......still a skins fan

celts32 · 12-20-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It doesn't make it right but people do it all the time. In all walks of life. Men and women. I'm not going to judge Pierce cause he's getting some on the side. If that were the case I'd lose half of my friends. But he's dumb as hell openly acting like this in public when people know who he is. What a total dumb ass.

It's not right and he is certainly dumb, but him cheating on his wife is not news worthy is all I am saying. Plax shooting himslef and Pierce hiding the gun...that is news wrothy...the girls they were parading around with is not news worthy.

Hog1 · 12-20-2008, 02:54 PM

Sooooo, that's a yes?

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

doesnt bother me, that his business, that problem with everyone, think just because, someone isnt doing, or living the way you think they should, then there wrong........thats no of your business,....thats between him and his wife. what you give a **** for?

Giantone · 12-20-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

i get the point that Pierce doesn't. it is strictly business. you cant cry about loyalty, and then just sign with the highest bidder. sometimes i really think that he wishes he would have stayed

If he had ,he would'nt have a super bowl ring.

SmootSmack · 12-20-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

Jump ship? nah playboy, since we out, then I am supporting a franchise, that went through hell, and is making it happen, but to make you feel better, last time I checked.......still a skins fan

So in summary, since we're for all intents and purposes out of the playoff picture you're jumping on another bandwagon until they are eliminated as well and you'll switch back to a Redskins avatar or you'll just move to another team still in contention?

SmootSmack · 12-20-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Just treat them all the same way,it's fair.The discussion was about AP leaving...nobody is forgetting or ignoring anyone.Pretty sure B-Mitch came to the only team that would have him and could you expand about Bailey,what were "his" problems?

What do you mean treat them all the same way? That doesn't make sense. I wasn't the one who brought up all the other names in the first place.

Mitchell re-signed with the Redskins for one day at the end of his career so he could retire a Redskin.

Let's just say Bailey had problems more serious than Pierce, but along the same lines of misconduct.

Giantone · 12-21-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What do you mean treat them all the same way? That doesn't make sense. I wasn't the one who brought up all the other names in the first place.

Mitchell re-signed with the Redskins for one day at the end of his career so he could retire a Redskin.

Let's just say Bailey had problems more serious than Pierce, but along the same lines of misconduct.

Just what I said treat every negotiation in the same manner,are you subject to special knowledge about Bailey that the rest of us don't know,I know Smoot was a player but never heard a word about Bailey and I still don't know what sort of misconduct you mean Pierce has not been charged with a thing.

A10sROCK · 12-21-2008, 01:02 AM

I liked AP when he was here and really wanted to keep him.

BL - was that he went to the Gints for a slightly higher bid [10.8 mill vs. 10.0 mill] if my memory is correct.

He has blasted the Redskins every since then in the media - every chance he can get.

This dude is dead to me and he screwed up huge.

BYE.

12-19-2008, 03:05 PM	#46
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year... haha pierce looked like a straight up nerd in that video. i get more love and attention from strippers and i dont have a few million in the bank. . . all pawing on the girl and she was turning her back to him . . . haha what a bama.

12-19-2008, 05:54 PM	#47
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year... If the difference was nothing more than a $6M signing bonus vs a $4M signing bonus then that would have to be the only time in Danny Boy's ownership where a couple of million dollars kept the Skins from getting/keeping a player "they really wanted". Something here does not ring true. When the Skins sign a free agent away from another team for big bucks, usually the player says it was just a business matter - - and given what the Skins pay for some free agents that makes a lot of sense. Same thing happens when other players sign with new teams. So Pierce "made this personal". Question is why? Maybe he's a nasty person at the core - - but then how would Joe Gibbs have thought he was a "core Redskin"? Remember, Gibbs values people who are pure of heart. Or maybe the wheeling and dealing tried by the FO at the time of those contract negotiations got under his skin and he thought the team was "disrespectful" - - whatever the hell that means. Too many players leave the Redskins feeling "disrespected" or "not wanted" as compared to folks around the league. Pierce, Coles, Arrington, Bailey, B-Mitch come to mind. Other Redskins who left on less than fully positive terms include Bobby Mitchell - - merely a Hall of Famer who had been with the Skins in one capacity or another for about 40 years. Where there's smoke, there just may be a fire... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

12-19-2008, 06:35 PM	#48
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year... It's in large part because many players feel like since the Redskins have been known to sign large contracts for some players they should just do it for everyone. Of course, let's just ignore all the players that stay or even come back. Plus B-Mitch technically came back as well I believe, and Bailey's problems were his own. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-19-2008, 10:02 PM	#51
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year... My opinion that Pierce is a jerk has nothing to do with B-Mich, Bailey, Arrington or anyone else. T.O. never played for the Redskins and I think he's a jerk too. If you like him fine. I don't. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

12-21-2008, 01:02 AM	#60
A10sROCK Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 520	Re: Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year... I liked AP when he was here and really wanted to keep him. BL - was that he went to the Gints for a slightly higher bid [10.8 mill vs. 10.0 mill] if my memory is correct. He has blasted the Redskins every since then in the media - every chance he can get. This dude is dead to me and he screwed up huge. BYE.

Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year...

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