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FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 12:02 AM

HO-LEEE CRAP! Awesomeness.

SmootSmack · 02-29-2008, 12:06 AM

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HO-LEEE CRAP! Awesomeness.

So what do you make of it all. What's going on?

FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 12:26 AM

I haven't a clue. I am worried that there is no real logical explanation. That will be sorta crapy if they just hand it off as science fiction. There needs to be some solid story telling and something believeable. I think the time shift stuff could go great or horrible.

SmootSmack · 02-29-2008, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I haven't a clue. I am worried that there is no real logical explanation. That will be sorta crapy if they just hand it off as science fiction. There needs to be some solid story telling and something believeable. I think the time shift stuff could go great or horrible.

FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 01:12 AM

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His timeline is confusing as hell. What with all the back and forth and exploding hatches and running around naked. Confusing isn't even the word for it. They also need to explain what made Penny decide to like him again in 2001. She said Charlie visited but they hadn't even met then. Oh plus the fact that he is dead. But maybe not since Hurley and his fellow mental patient saw him in a flash forward. My head hurts.

htownskinfan · 02-29-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

His timeline is confusing as hell. What with all the back and forth and exploding hatches and running around naked. Confusing isn't even the word for it. They also need to explain what made Penny decide to like him again in 2001. She said Charlie visited but they hadn't even met then. Oh plus the fact that he is dead. But maybe not since Hurley and his fellow mental patient saw him in a flash forward. My head hurts.

Penny said when she talked to charlie,not met him{at least thats what I thought I heard} and I thought she was refering to the underwater communication station where charlie talked to her right before he died

FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 09:16 AM

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Penny said when she talked to charlie,not met him{at least thats what I thought I heard} and I thought she was refering to the underwater communication station where charlie talked to her right before he died

True.

onlydarksets · 02-29-2008, 09:31 AM

Last night's ep was awesome!

I have a couple of questions, though:

I thought Desmond did the around the world race to get Penny's dad off of their backs, and my recollection was that they were together before he left. That was about 3 years ago. From last night, though, it seems they hadn't spoken for 8 years.
One other thing - if time on the Island moves slower than in the rest of the world, how is it that the same amount of time has passed in both places? The Oceanic survivors believe approximately 100 days have passed since their crash. The plane crashed on 9/24/04, and it's now 12/24/04 in the real world - that's about 100 days (94 to be exact).

FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 09:37 AM

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Last night's ep was awesome!

I have a couple of questions, though:

I thought Desmond did the around the world race to get Penny's dad off of their backs, and my recollection was that they were together before he left. That was about 3 years ago. From last night, though, it seems they hadn't spoken for 8 years.
One other thing - if time on the Island moves slower than in the rest of the world, how is it that the same amount of time has passed in both places? The Oceanic survivors believe approximately 100 days have passed since their crash. The plane crashed on 9/24/04, and it's now 12/24/04 in the real world - that's about 100 days (94 to be exact).

Ahh but there's the rub. I believe the article that SMooty posted mentioned one word: "unstable". I think they are pointing us towards not a place where physics go hay wire but a place physics CAN go hay wire and it CAN affect some people. Hence why this stuff is only happening to some people.

onlydarksets · 02-29-2008, 09:46 AM

That might address #1:
Before Desmond travelled to the past, the "present" Danny didn't know who he was. After the moment in the present when Desmond went back and made contact with "past" Danny, "present" Danny seemed to remember him (at least, his journal did).

Assuming actions in the past actually happen concurrently with the present (that is, there is a moment in the present when someone goes into the past, and that is the moment when the timeline changes, as opposed to the timeline changing the memories of people in the present from the moment the past action occurred), that would explain the inconsistencies.

That is, Desmond did communicate with Penny up until 3 years ago. However, when he went into the past, he changed all of that by telling her he would take 8 years to contact her. Of course, that begs the question why he did the race if he wasn't trying to get her dad to leave them alone.

For #2, though, I don't think that addresses it. How can minutes go by like hours, but days are the same?

BDBohnzie · 02-29-2008, 12:17 PM

#2 is an assumption that time goes slower. From the EW article, it points the reader to the fact that if Faraday did the experiment again, it would most likely be different. So there could be times where it's slower, the same, or even faster than the real world.

I think the history between his encounter with Penny and the phone number and the sailing race went unaffected. I think the only have to worry about what we saw, as opposed to what happened between then and the island...

The episode was awesome last night. You begin to wonder who destroyed the radio room, and which people are working for who. We see why Jack couldn't get anyone on the horn. I wonder how the people on the freighter will now interact with the group (Charlotte, Daniel, Miles, Frank). And how Sayid and Desmond will continue to help those left on the island.

onlydarksets · 02-29-2008, 12:24 PM

OK, so between the time the helicopter left the ship and arrived at the freighter, time moved slower on the island, but it could flip-flop and time could move slower in the real world. That makes "Lost-sense".

SmootSmack · 02-29-2008, 01:07 PM

Maybe pushing all those buttons is what kept time off and on the island the same?

Also, is it just a coincidence that 1996 and 2004 are leap years?

FRPLG · 02-29-2008, 03:42 PM

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OK, so between the time the helicopter left the ship and arrived at the freighter, time moved slower on the island, but it could flip-flop and time could move slower in the real world. That makes "Lost-sense".

Actually time went faster.

onlydarksets · 02-29-2008, 03:44 PM

Right, faster.

02-29-2008, 12:02 AM	#46
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) HO-LEEE CRAP! Awesomeness.

02-29-2008, 12:26 AM	#48
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) I haven't a clue. I am worried that there is no real logical explanation. That will be sorta crapy if they just hand it off as science fiction. There needs to be some solid story telling and something believeable. I think the time shift stuff could go great or horrible.

02-29-2008, 09:31 AM	#53
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) Last night's ep was awesome! I have a couple of questions, though: I thought Desmond did the around the world race to get Penny's dad off of their backs, and my recollection was that they were together before he left. That was about 3 years ago. From last night, though, it seems they hadn't spoken for 8 years. One other thing - if time on the Island moves slower than in the rest of the world, how is it that the same amount of time has passed in both places? The Oceanic survivors believe approximately 100 days have passed since their crash. The plane crashed on 9/24/04, and it's now 12/24/04 in the real world - that's about 100 days (94 to be exact). __________________ Stop reading my signature.

02-29-2008, 09:46 AM	#55
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) That might address #1: Before Desmond travelled to the past, the "present" Danny didn't know who he was. After the moment in the present when Desmond went back and made contact with "past" Danny, "present" Danny seemed to remember him (at least, his journal did). Assuming actions in the past actually happen concurrently with the present (that is, there is a moment in the present when someone goes into the past, and that is the moment when the timeline changes, as opposed to the timeline changing the memories of people in the present from the moment the past action occurred), that would explain the inconsistencies. That is, Desmond did communicate with Penny up until 3 years ago. However, when he went into the past, he changed all of that by telling her he would take 8 years to contact her. Of course, that begs the question why he did the race if he wasn't trying to get her dad to leave them alone. For #2, though, I don't think that addresses it. How can minutes go by like hours, but days are the same? __________________ Stop reading my signature.

02-29-2008, 12:17 PM	#56
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) #2 is an assumption that time goes slower. From the EW article, it points the reader to the fact that if Faraday did the experiment again, it would most likely be different. So there could be times where it's slower, the same, or even faster than the real world. I think the history between his encounter with Penny and the phone number and the sailing race went unaffected. I think the only have to worry about what we saw, as opposed to what happened between then and the island... The episode was awesome last night. You begin to wonder who destroyed the radio room, and which people are working for who. We see why Jack couldn't get anyone on the horn. I wonder how the people on the freighter will now interact with the group (Charlotte, Daniel, Miles, Frank). And how Sayid and Desmond will continue to help those left on the island. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

02-29-2008, 12:24 PM	#57
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) OK, so between the time the helicopter left the ship and arrived at the freighter, time moved slower on the island, but it could flip-flop and time could move slower in the real world. That makes "Lost-sense". __________________ Stop reading my signature.

02-29-2008, 01:07 PM	#58
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) Maybe pushing all those buttons is what kept time off and on the island the same? Also, is it just a coincidence that 1996 and 2004 are leap years? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-29-2008, 03:44 PM	#60
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: LOST (Warning: Possible Spoilers) Right, faster. __________________ Stop reading my signature.

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