What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

GTripp0012 · 12-30-2007, 12:36 AM

So here's what we have thus far:

Sun Tzu war theory ("failure is not an option") is being applied to one fans perspective of a Cowboys-Redskin football game, because free speech allows it.

Philosophy is one thing (and defendable), but all philosophy by definition requires the examination of ones beliefs in order to make sure that those beliefs are realistic. Philosophy can not be the incorrect application of an irrelevant theory, followed by the refusal to reexamine. Therefore, this is not philosophy.

The key term in 'free choice' is "free."

Respectfully,

GTripp

Gibbsmeatitle#1 · 12-30-2007, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

So here's what we have thus far:

Sun Tzu war theory ("failure is not an option") is being applied to one fans perspective of a Cowboys-Redskin football game, because free speech allows it.

(Wrong - that's not what I said about Sun Tzu. If I had, I would have attributed something to Sun Tzu which he did not say. Reread all the posts.)

Philosophy is one thing (and defendable), but all philosophy by definition requires the examination of ones beliefs in order to make sure that those beliefs are realistic. Philosophy can not be the incorrect application of an irrelevant theory, followed by the refusal to reexamine. Therefore, this is not philosophy.

[I](Not quite sure where you think you're going with this - I choose to apply some of the philosophy of Sun Tzu to my thoughts on this thread and the game. Who are you to invalidate (and with what?) anything of what I've said? Also, what's not realistic about focusing on the positive. No matter what the walk of life, there are many who choose to focus on the positive. That is their philosophy and their very success validates it.

The key term in 'free choice' is "free."

The key term(s) in I'm going to sleep is/are I'm going to sleep.

Respectfully,

The same to you.

GTripp

GMAT

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malo12124 · 12-30-2007, 02:16 AM

Whatever happens Joe stays! It's been a long year and he kept us together when most teams would have quit. That said I hope we come out Sunday afternoon and rip there heads off!!! GO SKINS!!!!!!!!!!

BigSKINBauer · 12-30-2007, 04:00 AM

People, this might be the last game of the season. It was a season to remember. Lets hope all turns out well but regardless of what happens, us skin fans have learned, there is always next year.

Schneed10 · 12-30-2007, 08:48 AM

GMAT (you sound like a business school entrance exam, but whatever you want),

There's a major disconnect in your argument which you are dancing around by saying it's free choice. Essentially, you're saying you have the free choice and freedom of speech to say something that makes no sense, and people like me are free to agree or disagree.

You said that Sun Tzu taught that if you prepare, and if you know your opponent, you will win. What you have failed to explain, time and again, is how YOU can prepare and how YOU can know your opponent. You have stated, within this thread, that losing is not an option, therefore it serves no purpose to discuss it. I am challenging you, right now, to explain to me why Sun Tzu's teachings should apply to a fan discussion board, to people who don't have one iota of preparations to make or any recourse to take advantage of their knowledge of the Cowboys.

Your whole philosophy is nice, and actually very applicable to Joe Gibbs and the Redskins themselves, but you have failed time and again to explain why it should be applied to the message board. Sure, you have the free choice to say whatever you want here, and that includes the freedom to say things that make no sense and destroy any credibility you have on the site.

Likewise, we've got the freedom to call you on it.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 · 12-30-2007, 09:16 AM

Schneed,

I have confidence that my team is making the preparations, therefore I don't doubt we will win. I have Gibbs track record. I have their performances over the last three games. I know Dallas' personnel situation having sewn up home field already. Do I have all the information that the team has? No, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough to make up my mind with some rationality. As to my name, yeah I get your point about the acronym, but why bring that up to begin with? Why take a shot (minor though it may be)? It is unnecessary and detracts from your post. This is my last post on the matter. Think what you will. I'm going to focus on the game and not on all your negative waves, Moriarty.

GMAT

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12-30-2007, 12:36 AM	#46
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 37 Posts: 15,994	Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs? So here's what we have thus far: Sun Tzu war theory ("failure is not an option") is being applied to one fans perspective of a Cowboys-Redskin football game, because free speech allows it. Philosophy is one thing (and defendable), but all philosophy by definition requires the examination of ones beliefs in order to make sure that those beliefs are realistic. Philosophy can not be the incorrect application of an irrelevant theory, followed by the refusal to reexamine. Therefore, this is not philosophy. The key term in 'free choice' is "free." Respectfully, GTripp __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-30-2007, 02:16 AM	#48
malo12124 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 38	Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs? Whatever happens Joe stays! It's been a long year and he kept us together when most teams would have quit. That said I hope we come out Sunday afternoon and rip there heads off!!! GO SKINS!!!!!!!!!!

12-30-2007, 04:00 AM	#49
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs? People, this might be the last game of the season. It was a season to remember. Lets hope all turns out well but regardless of what happens, us skin fans have learned, there is always next year.

12-30-2007, 08:48 AM	#50
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,439	Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs? GMAT (you sound like a business school entrance exam, but whatever you want), There's a major disconnect in your argument which you are dancing around by saying it's free choice. Essentially, you're saying you have the free choice and freedom of speech to say something that makes no sense, and people like me are free to agree or disagree. You said that Sun Tzu taught that if you prepare, and if you know your opponent, you will win. What you have failed to explain, time and again, is how YOU can prepare and how YOU can know your opponent. You have stated, within this thread, that losing is not an option, therefore it serves no purpose to discuss it. I am challenging you, right now, to explain to me why Sun Tzu's teachings should apply to a fan discussion board, to people who don't have one iota of preparations to make or any recourse to take advantage of their knowledge of the Cowboys. Your whole philosophy is nice, and actually very applicable to Joe Gibbs and the Redskins themselves, but you have failed time and again to explain why it should be applied to the message board. Sure, you have the free choice to say whatever you want here, and that includes the freedom to say things that make no sense and destroy any credibility you have on the site. Likewise, we've got the freedom to call you on it. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

12-30-2007, 09:16 AM	#51
Gibbsmeatitle#1 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 156	Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs? Schneed, I have confidence that my team is making the preparations, therefore I don't doubt we will win. I have Gibbs track record. I have their performances over the last three games. I know Dallas' personnel situation having sewn up home field already. Do I have all the information that the team has? No, but that doesn't mean I don't have enough to make up my mind with some rationality. As to my name, yeah I get your point about the acronym, but why bring that up to begin with? Why take a shot (minor though it may be)? It is unnecessary and detracts from your post. This is my last post on the matter. Think what you will. I'm going to focus on the game and not on all your negative waves, Moriarty. GMAT _____________________________ At least you left my family out of it

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