Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


Our offense is Pathetic

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-14-2007, 06:44 PM   #46
FRPLG
MVP
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 46
Posts: 10,164
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

I jusr disagree that the offense was bad. Individuals made mistakes but the overall cogesion and playcalling was good in my opinion. Seriously we lost the gaem because we had an aversion to the ball individually. Not anything else.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 10-14-2007, 06:47 PM   #47
The Zimmermans
Impact Rookie
 
The Zimmermans's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC
Age: 40
Posts: 937
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

when guys don't practice fully you cannot rely on them....should have run the ball more on third down
__________________
Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure
The Zimmermans is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 07:05 PM   #48
irish
Playmaker
 
irish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 4,575
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.
irish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 07:34 PM   #49
Cowell
Impact Rookie
 
Cowell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bluffton, South Carolina
Posts: 803
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Was it really all of our coaches. We have always had some terrible clock management and I do have to say some of the play calling was pretty iffy, but our players have to try their best and we had so many dropped passes that would have been first downs on the 3rd it's not even funny.
Cowell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 08:17 PM   #50
70Chip
Playmaker
 
70Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Manassas
Age: 53
Posts: 3,048
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Quote:
Originally Posted by irish View Post
The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.
The coaches didn't make Campbell throw it to Betts. McCardell was wide open for a first down. Part of a young QB's growing pains.

Having said that, Saunders seemed a bit pass-happy today. And that reverse. We must be the worst reverse team in the history of organized football.

Also, the coaches didn't drop any passes. None that I saw anyways.
__________________
This Monkey's Gone to Heaven
70Chip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 08:24 PM   #51
Darrell_Green_28
The Starter
 
Darrell_Green_28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Robert, Louisiana
Age: 56
Posts: 2,119
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

not sure if its posted anywheres else but with the trade deadline i think this tuesday, do we make a move for an o lineman or 2?
Darrell_Green_28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 08:38 PM   #52
DynamiteRave
Living Legend
 
DynamiteRave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington DC
Age: 38
Posts: 16,867
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Quote:
Originally Posted by 70Chip View Post
The coaches didn't make Campbell throw it to Betts. McCardell was wide open for a first down. Part of a young QB's growing pains.

Having said that, Saunders seemed a bit pass-happy today. And that reverse. We must be the worst reverse team in the history of organized football.

Also, the coaches didn't drop any passes. None that I saw anyways.
Sad but true.

I'm pretty young, but I can even remember back in the 90's when the Skins would run the reverse (or the fake) and it actually WORK time and time again.

Too bad those days are long gone.
__________________
Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best.

I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.
DynamiteRave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #53
Longtimefan
Playmaker
 
Longtimefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germantown, Md.
Posts: 4,832
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

We were not the deepest team in the league going into the season, and with all the injuries on the offensive side of the ball, it's unrealistic to think they can operate fluently under that set of circumstances. Couple that with the growing pains of a maturing young QB, any team is going to struggle at times.

Offensive woes aside, there were some good things. The defense palyed a very good game, "if" we could have back the Moss fumble for six, even with all the mistakes this could have been a different game. We need to find a way to score more points, "that's the bottom line". New England is 6-0 because they have scored more than thirty points in each of their games, had we been able to do the same, we'd be 5-0 as opposed to 3-2.
Longtimefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:06 PM   #54
SouperMeister
Playmaker
 
SouperMeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
Age: 60
Posts: 3,419
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

My biggest issue with the offense was the ridiculous reverse call to Moss that led to the fumble and winning TD for GB. Why does Saunders feel a desire to trick teams? The Skins had significantly outplayed the Packers to that point, despite the close score. Portis had broken a couple 10+ yard runs in the 2nd half, and the Skins had GREAT field position after Rock's excellent kick return. Moss had footing problems with the wet turf all day, yet on that call, Saunders is effectively asking him to to make a hard cut to make the corner. Bad call at a bad time.
SouperMeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:10 PM   #55
JWsleep
Propane and propane accessories
 
JWsleep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Age: 55
Posts: 4,714
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Basically, we lost the game on a couple of turnovers, IMO. Drops and fumbles were the real story here. That's execution, no two ways about it. And JC missed the game winner, most likely, when he overthrew Lloyd.

The good: the D is playing ball, and the problem is not that we just suck on offense, and look pathetic; it's the little things that we are able to fix--drops, timing in the passing game, and fumbles.

The bad: O-line injuries are catching up with us. The run game is not there. We don't seem to have the playmakers to step up and make a play when we really need it on O. We were again really one or two plays away from winning, and couldn't get it done. At some point, you have to make the next step.

The bottom line: we are an up and down team in a relatively weak NFC. We'll most likely be right in the wildcard hunt, but it will take better execution to make it to the playoffs. That's pretty much how I felt at the beginning of the year, so I'm not surprised. It hurts to watch, but look, we are not the Pats. We just aren't that good (yet, I hope!). We just need to find a way to win the ones we need to, and learn from our mistakes. And hopefully, Buges can patch up that O-line so Campbell can have a little more time! he was pressured and hit WAY too much for us to be successful at this stage in JC's career. And he was still hitting people in the hands (and chest and face), despite that. Hang in there, boys.
__________________
Hail from Houston!
JWsleep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:11 PM   #56
GMScud
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 12,626
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Our overall lack of fire on offense pissed me off. No rhythm, a bunch of guys standing around in the second half looking flat footed and befuddled. I was so SICK after the game. AWFUL.
__________________
Tardy
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:32 PM   #57
Sheriff Gonna Getcha
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 45
Posts: 8,317
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Quote:
Originally Posted by irish View Post
The coaching staff is killing this team. They mismanage the clock, take a timeout and then call a 2 yd pass play when they need 3 for the 1st down.

There is a lot of talent on this team but the coaches stink.
Seriously! If it wasn't for Gibbs fumbling that ball (which was recovered for a TD), Gibbs bumbling that reception that ended up getting picked, Williams failing to get more of those picks, or Saunders getting blown past for sacks, we totally would have won that game. Damn you coaches!!
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:35 PM   #58
Longtimefan
Playmaker
 
Longtimefan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Germantown, Md.
Posts: 4,832
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Our PPG average is not going to get it done. I know we're not goin to score 30+ per game like NE does (who does?) but we can't expect the defense to keep winning games for us either. Today's NFL requires 20+ PPG, if you can't acomplish that you're going to struggle to win games.
Longtimefan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:36 PM   #59
dgack
The Starter
 
dgack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
Posts: 1,125
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beemnseven View Post
Honestly, I didn't expect us to win this game, and anyone who was counting on this team to finish better than 9-7 would be borderline delusional in my book.

With the way the offensive line has been absolutely DESTROYED this year with injuries, chalk it up to more experience for Campbell. To be able to have a successful year without the entire starting right side of your offensive line says a lot about your QB.

David Carr has proven to be a bad quarterback period. A completely healthy, effective offensive line wouldn't have made a difference for him.
Well, 9-7 after a 2-0 start is just .500 ball. I expect us to play a little better than .500 ball in a weak conference with the defense finally playing the way we knew and expected it could.

My point was that injuries have taken their toll and a lot of players who depend on speed are just "off". Betts is playing really slow. I think we all agree Portis and Moss are both "off", and now ARE has come up gimpy with a hammy... you can't win too many football games with Cooley and McCardell.

My reference to David Carr was more related to the constant punishing hits the guy was taking because of a porous O-Line, not that he was some awesome QB who turned into a backup because he didn't win enough.
__________________
"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson
dgack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2007, 09:39 PM   #60
dgack
The Starter
 
dgack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
Posts: 1,125
Re: Our offense is Pathetic

Quote:
Originally Posted by JWsleep View Post
JC missed the game winner, most likely, when he overthrew Lloyd.
I don't know, what Brandon Lloyd calls a "career" is built off of circus catches and he had full hands on that ball and just dropped it.

He could have pretty much written his own prescription for full redemption in the eyes of Redskin Nation had he just been able to make that one play, but as usual, he came up short. I give him credit for laying out on that pass, but I really think that's a catchable ball for a lot of NFL WR's.
__________________
"To bring a Sherm Lewis in to a Jim Zorn and whoever his offensive coordinator is, it's like bringing in another man to help teach you how to make better love to your wife or something." -- Tre Johnson
dgack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.58847 seconds with 10 queries