Sean Taylor struggling???

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

sorry that my football knowledge isn't as great as the magnificent grimreapers, but I'm glad you want to talk about fundamentals. isn't tackling a football fundamental? right now, i don't think Sean Taylor could tackle me. isn't pass coverage keeping the opposition in front of you? Taylor still trying to peek into the backfield, as every tom, dick, and harry goes blowing by him. and the biggest fundamental a safety learns in pop warner, is don't let anyone behind you. anyone have a guess on how many times this has happened this season? the defense being horrible isn't all Sean Taylors fault. but no way he gets a free pass. he was just as bad as everyone else

My three year old could tackle you.

You were the one who labled Taylor as a marginal player. Own up to your misguided claim.

Marginal players don't get NFC players of the week.

[The Huddle]

It is obvious Taylor suffers from being on a bad defense, but I do think he is often out of postion and misses too many tackles going for knock out hits. He has the potential to be a great player, but I do not think he is one yet.

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

ST is a monster. Don't compare him to LA. First and foremost he isn't hurt. Second, he is a freak of nature and his time to shine is much shorter than LA's. Take a deep breath, ST has everything in front of him. He is currently on a bad team trying to find it's way. Next year will be different!!!

i agree with you 100% thank you for not buying into that crap. sean is the best player we have on defense bottom line, you lose him you have nothing. hes been playing through injury as well this season, something lavar (hate mentioning that bums name) never did. when ST sits out for 6 weeks with a thigh bruise then you can make calls like that. i agree with you 100% next season will be better for him, provided our D as a whoile gets thier head out of thier ass. its like a snowball effect, do people think that its easy to watch your team give up plays and not want to do anything and everything to win. when has sean ever complained or said anything stupid to the media, in fact when as he ever said anything, let him do his job.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

My three year old could tackle you.

You were the one who labled Taylor as a marginal player. Own up to your misguided claim.

Marginal players don't get NFC players of the week.

first off, I'm 6'2" 245lbs, so i don't think your 3 year old would be tackling me anytime soon.
secondly, right now, in my eyes, Taylor is a marginal NFL player
and lastly, how many times has Taylor been player of the week? can you name one game, other then the Carolina game, when Taylor has played well? if you look thru some of the players of the week, I'm sure you will find some marginal players that could shine for just that one week. i like Taylor. i think he has a world of talent. but he has under achieved this season.

[hurrykaine]

Originally Posted by irish

ST is the redskins new LA. He is out of position often and misses a ton of tackles. Sure he makes big hits once in a while but he is too undisciplined to become a superstar.

Well put - Sean Taylor is as good at playing safety as a healthy Lavar was at playing OLB. Both go for the big highlight reel hits and are often caught out of position.

[dall-assblows]

my man had 111 tackles. now compare that to the last two years where he was at his best, during his first 2 years he had 70 and 76 tackles. very seldom do you see a saftey lead his team in tackles. for a saftey that is not good, that tells me that he is making up for the players who can't, well, play. he needs more talent on the defense to help him out.

[dall-assblows]

he is missing tackles, sure, but he has 111 tackles. he can't make every play. He needs help.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by dall-assblows

my man had 111 tackles. now compare that to the last two years where he was at his best, during his first 2 years he had 70 and 76 tackles. very seldom do you see a saftey lead his team in tackles. for a saftey that is not good, that tells me that he is making up for the players who can't, well, play. he needs more talent on the defense to help him out.

AMEN!!! Show me a safety who leads his team in tackles, and I'll show you a front seven that sucks. Until Gibbs and Williams address that issue, Taylor and Rogers will never develop into the players they can be.

[dall-assblows]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

AMEN!!! Show me a safety who leads his team in tackles, and I'll show you a front seven that sucks. Until Gibbs and Williams address that issue, Taylor and Rogers will never develop into the players they can be.

can you believe this? the expect ST to mak every damn play on defense. unbelievable

[Redskin]

Disgusting really how sean taylor is being jumped on here when he is without a doubt a top safety. People wonder why sean taylor bites on play action becuas eif he doesent and it is a run its going 20 yards.

[GiantsSuck703]

Taylor regressed because the entire defense was awful, and maybe it has something to do with Dewayne Walker being UCLA defensive cord., he should have been here, but we just let him leave, like pierce, Clark and Smoot. Taylors play has regressed because he has no help, Rogers gets beat and so does Kenny Wright and Taylor has to basically cover all of the recievers on the field and watch the run, thats one hell of an assignment. Even Ed Reed would look suspect if he didnt have the corners he plays behind, and it doesnt hurt to have a pass rush. I would like this topic to be saved, so that when Taylor has a monster year in 07', everybody who ran there mouth about him can enjoy a nice plate of crow.

[dmek25]

excuse me. guys, im a redskin fan. that means i want him to do well. but im not understanding why people around here keep giving him a free pass. and 100 tackles, 10 yards down the field doesnt mean a whole lot to me

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by dmek25

excuse me. guys, im a redskin fan. that means i want him to do well. but im not understanding why people around here keep giving him a free pass. and 100 tackles, 10 yards down the field doesnt mean a whole lot to me

you all can go to hell, every last one of you who blames sean taylor for regressing. this man has played on special teams both ways, if anything that right there should be an example of not regressing, how about him trying to do anything to win. he was not put on special teams he volunteered to do it. and if he was so bad at tackling (since you all are coaches) then explain to me why he is on the field for every down except for offense where you dont tackle.

i think some members on here are losing sight of something, HE IS OUR BEST PLAYER ON D. i could understand if you want to blame the D-line, or our corners, but dont blame a player in his 3rd year who has done everything possible to win.

personal fouls againsed him we know are not warrented half the time. he does go for the big hit, but i wouldnt say he does it so much he misses tackles, and dont give me the Michael Vick crap, sean came from across the damn field for that hit and Vick had a quick cutback, not only that but on that one play which everyone seems to bring up, he slowed vick down and he only got 3 yeards extra.

im over this thread already you idiot redskins fans that either think sean is regressing or are comparing him to lavar are just stupid. im out.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Taylor regressed because the entire defense was awful, and maybe it has something to do with Dewayne Walker being UCLA defensive cord., he should have been here, but we just let him leave, like pierce, Clark and Smoot. Taylors play has regressed because he has no help, Rogers gets beat and so does Kenny Wright and Taylor has to basically cover all of the recievers on the field and watch the run, thats one hell of an assignment. Even Ed Reed would look suspect if he didnt have the corners he plays behind, and it doesnt hurt to have a pass rush. I would like this topic to be saved, so that when Taylor has a monster year in 07', everybody who ran there mouth about him can enjoy a nice plate of crow.

You're probably the first person to bring up Dewayne Walker's absence, very good observation. I think his departure was the single biggest one the Redskins had over the past three years. His defense at UCLA immediately went from one of the worst to one of the best in the entire nation after his arrival. The same John David Booty that sliced Michigan up yesterday for nearly 400 yds, couldn't even get going against UCLA. He was baffled. Walker's departure certainly hurt us big time, yet you hardly ever hear his name called around Redskins park.

As far as Taylor regressing, maybe...maybe not. One thing is for damn sure, you don't get 111 tackles but not being able to play your position. That has to be some kind of record for a safety. Those are really linebacker type of numbers. Taylor, I think, was victim of his own talent this year and a defense as a whole that went in reverse. If anyone watched the games, he was in on just about ever single play. That's isane.

I want to chalk up a lot of his bad angles to running accross the field trying to make plays or in the backfield trying to make plays. Taylor would often be in coverage one on one in the end zone or downfield with recievers. Something just seems right about that. Yes, he had an off year. but 100+ tackles is quite a bit.

[MTK]

It's not really fair in my opinion to single out Taylor or anyone else for that matter. This defense as a whole was just horrible this year and Taylor's play was just a reflection of the entire unit.