Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation

Hog1 · 11-15-2006, 04:14 PM

I try to listen the all the BS in the league I can get. It's not like I have any connections or anything. That particular item seems like total bs as I have not heard one peson in or out of the Skins org say anything negative about JC. With all the haters around the world, you woud think something like that would have surfaced before now.
However, I don't like hearing that

FRPLG · 11-15-2006, 04:39 PM

Did I miss all those games that Campbell played where he showed everyone he can't play? I mean if they think he can't play they must be basing that on some type of evidence. Certainly no one would say a guy can't play when the guy has never even taken a snap. No, that'd never happen.

Let's allow Campbell a shot before any of us even bother fretting over it. The guy clearly has some skills. Yoy don't start at Auburn for 3 years and go 13-0 your senior year and have nothing to offer. Maybe he wont be Peyton but he certainly wont be Ken Dorsey. That's a guy who 'can't play'.

RiggoRules · 11-15-2006, 05:19 PM

Campbell's performance in the preseason was IMHO superior to Mark Brutal's and infinately better than Collins.

Under a great deal of pressure, he showed a tremendous amount of poise and confidence. On top of that, he was able to make some throws that #8 hasn't made since he has been a Redskin.

I'm cautiously optimistic.

RedskinRat · 11-15-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I just heard him on the Dan Patrick show, he said he was talking to someone inside the Redskins organization and this person told him that they pray for Mark Brunell every night because the other two guys "can't play".

Just to clarify, the leak came from someone with the initials MAB.

Anyone have a raging clue who that could be?

skinsguy · 11-15-2006, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Just to clarify, the leak came from someone with the initials MAB.

Anyone have a raging clue who that could be?

Matthew Broddrick!! I knew I couldn't trust that guy!

joethiesmanfan · 11-15-2006, 05:36 PM

Remember Brunelle is second string so Campbell can be pulled a few times at halftime like joe liked to do back in the day.

BrunellMVP? · 11-15-2006, 05:47 PM

do we really think that is possible? how can someone be THAT bad? i mean, brunell- while able to complete passes (short) he was TERRIBLE this season. not to rehash debates, but that is my opinion. its really disconcerning to hear...i'm mean honestly, he just tossed for 132 yards in a complete game! can't get much worse.

GoSkins! · 11-15-2006, 06:01 PM

This is an old comment rehashed. I remember seeing it on this site back in preseason. I'm to lasy to look it up, but think about a few things...

Saunders hand picked Collins to come to the Skins as a backup. If he thought he sucked, he wouldn't have done it... even to teach the other guys the system. I say this because Saunders has a bit of an ego and I'm sure he thought he could teach it just fine by himself.

Campbell has always been a winner. Look at the tapes we have posted here. He makes all the throws. Short, long, in the pocket, on the move. All of them. If he can progress towards the mental part of the game at all, he is going to be fine.

The comment probably came from someone who is not a coach or understands the situations Campbell is put in. Running the other teams offense week after week is not the best spotlight to the untrained eye.

Also, expect him to start slow. Many other really good QBs do. If he starts like Kurt Warner... GREAT!

redskinsfanatic · 11-15-2006, 06:36 PM

i have never thought much of collinsworth,he was a player with 30% talent when he played,and he's an even worse reporter/host/
commentator!

djnemo65 · 11-15-2006, 07:26 PM

What connection does Collinsworth have to the Skins? Who is going to talk to him? He is not respected by football people and he has no ties to the city of Washington or the team. Who in management would leak information indicating that the signature player acquisition of the Gibbs II era is going to be a boondogle? If this was coming from Wilbon or Boswell that would be one thing, but its not. It's coming from a 2bit hack who is wrong more often than not.

Maybe by high up he meant the guy selling hot dogs in the nose bleed seats.

SmootSmack · 11-15-2006, 07:41 PM

Here is the exact dialogue from the show today. I think the key part is what I bolded:

DP: Clinton Portis, it looks like he's going to be out for the year. Now the Redskins have decided to bring Jason Campbell in as the starting QB. What's this signify to you as far as the Redskins and the rest of the season?

CC: Um...they had to. And it's not even that Mark Brunell was that bad if you look at his numbers. It always just falls on the QB. But there had to be some sign of 'what does the future bring.' I mean essentially now they're selling season tickets for next year. The only thing that makes me a little bit nervous about it, and I won't telll you who it was, but I was talking to somebody in that organization and I was saying you know, "Tell me about the team, the QB situation and all that" and they said "We pray every night for Mark Brunell. Because if Mark Brunell goes down these other two guys can't play at all." And so I was like "You're kidding. You're talking about a #1 pick"
But that was the comment. Now I only heard it from one guy, but it was a pretty prominent guy. So the initial feeling going into this season was that he wasn't ready to play.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-15-2006, 08:09 PM

What bonehead is going to tell something like that to the press, throwing Collins and Campbell under the bus like that? Whoever it is should be given an atomic wedgie.

RedskinRat · 11-15-2006, 08:09 PM

So it's old news, nothing more and JC has had 9 weeks more to catch up.

Pocket$ $traight · 11-15-2006, 08:19 PM

There is a reason that Collinsworth was kicked off the A-team. There is no way that you can accurately predict how Campbell will do based on his limited body of work.

Look at Delhomme, Kurt Warner, & Tom Brady. You never know what a guy can be until he gets a shot.

steveo395 · 11-15-2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

There is a reason that Collinsworth was kicked off the A-team. There is no way that you can accurately predict how Campbell will do based on his limited body of work.

Look at Delhomme, Kurt Warner, & Tom Brady. You never know what a guy can be until he gets a shot.

Collinsworth also said that Brunell wasn't that bad because he looked at his numbers. If he watched the games he could see that all he did was dump it off every play, which Campbell could easily do.

11-15-2006, 04:39 PM	#2
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation Did I miss all those games that Campbell played where he showed everyone he can't play? I mean if they think he can't play they must be basing that on some type of evidence. Certainly no one would say a guy can't play when the guy has never even taken a snap. No, that'd never happen. Let's allow Campbell a shot before any of us even bother fretting over it. The guy clearly has some skills. Yoy don't start at Auburn for 3 years and go 13-0 your senior year and have nothing to offer. Maybe he wont be Peyton but he certainly wont be Ken Dorsey. That's a guy who 'can't play'.

11-15-2006, 05:19 PM	#3
RiggoRules Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 380	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation Campbell's performance in the preseason was IMHO superior to Mark Brutal's and infinately better than Collins. Under a great deal of pressure, he showed a tremendous amount of poise and confidence. On top of that, he was able to make some throws that #8 hasn't made since he has been a Redskin. I'm cautiously optimistic. __________________ *"Lighten up, Sandy Baby."*

11-15-2006, 05:36 PM	#6
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation Remember Brunelle is second string so Campbell can be pulled a few times at halftime like joe liked to do back in the day.

11-15-2006, 05:47 PM	#7
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation do we really think that is possible? how can someone be THAT bad? i mean, brunell- while able to complete passes (short) he was TERRIBLE this season. not to rehash debates, but that is my opinion. its really disconcerning to hear...i'm mean honestly, he just tossed for 132 yards in a complete game! can't get much worse. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

11-15-2006, 06:36 PM	#9
redskinsfanatic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation i have never thought much of collinsworth,he was a player with 30% talent when he played,and he's an even worse reporter/host/ commentator!

11-15-2006, 04:14 PM	#1
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation I try to listen the all the BS in the league I can get. It's not like I have any connections or anything. That particular item seems like total bs as I have not heard one peson in or out of the Skins org say anything negative about JC. With all the haters around the world, you woud think something like that would have surfaced before now. However, I don't like hearing that __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

11-15-2006, 06:01 PM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 56 Posts: 1,587	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation This is an old comment rehashed. I remember seeing it on this site back in preseason. I'm to lasy to look it up, but think about a few things... Saunders hand picked Collins to come to the Skins as a backup. If he thought he sucked, he wouldn't have done it... even to teach the other guys the system. I say this because Saunders has a bit of an ego and I'm sure he thought he could teach it just fine by himself. Campbell has always been a winner. Look at the tapes we have posted here. He makes all the throws. Short, long, in the pocket, on the move. All of them. If he can progress towards the mental part of the game at all, he is going to be fine. The comment probably came from someone who is not a coach or understands the situations Campbell is put in. Running the other teams offense week after week is not the best spotlight to the untrained eye. Also, expect him to start slow. Many other really good QBs do. If he starts like Kurt Warner... GREAT! __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

11-15-2006, 07:26 PM	#10
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation What connection does Collinsworth have to the Skins? Who is going to talk to him? He is not respected by football people and he has no ties to the city of Washington or the team. Who in management would leak information indicating that the signature player acquisition of the Gibbs II era is going to be a boondogle? If this was coming from Wilbon or Boswell that would be one thing, but its not. It's coming from a 2bit hack who is wrong more often than not. Maybe by high up he meant the guy selling hot dogs in the nose bleed seats.

11-15-2006, 07:41 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation Here is the exact dialogue from the show today. I think the key part is what I bolded: DP: Clinton Portis, it looks like he's going to be out for the year. Now the Redskins have decided to bring Jason Campbell in as the starting QB. What's this signify to you as far as the Redskins and the rest of the season? CC: Um...they had to. And it's not even that Mark Brunell was that bad if you look at his numbers. It always just falls on the QB. But there had to be some sign of 'what does the future bring.' I mean essentially now they're selling season tickets for next year. The only thing that makes me a little bit nervous about it, and I won't telll you who it was, but I was talking to somebody in that organization and I was saying you know, "Tell me about the team, the QB situation and all that" and they said "We pray every night for Mark Brunell. Because if Mark Brunell goes down these other two guys can't play at all." And so I was like "You're kidding. You're talking about a #1 pick" But that was the comment. Now I only heard it from one guy, but it was a pretty prominent guy. So the initial feeling going into this season was that he wasn't ready to play. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-15-2006, 08:09 PM	#12
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation What bonehead is going to tell something like that to the press, throwing Collins and Campbell under the bus like that? Whoever it is should be given an atomic wedgie.

11-15-2006, 08:09 PM	#13
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation So it's old news, nothing more and JC has had 9 weeks more to catch up.

11-15-2006, 08:19 PM	#14
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: Collinsworth on Redskins QB situation There is a reason that Collinsworth was kicked off the A-team. There is no way that you can accurately predict how Campbell will do based on his limited body of work. Look at Delhomme, Kurt Warner, & Tom Brady. You never know what a guy can be until he gets a shot.

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