B. Lloyd Overrated?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

They are obviously unfamiliar with Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris.

yeah... one amazing play per game is only about 9 more than we got out of our #2/#3/#4/#5 combined over the entire span of the last 9 games.

[Longtimefan]

It continues to amaze me that every time we sign a player someone, somewhere always has something negative to say about them. "Overated" we haven't even had a chance to rate him yet, how can he be overated? I chose not to dwell on the negatives, and as far as him being a #1 #2, or #3 receiver dosen't matter, all I want him to do is catch the ball when it't thrown to him, make plays when they're there and be a productive receiver. His numbers will dictate whether he's one, two or three.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Carnage

how pathetic it is to be an SF fan right now. To spend the off season trying to convince yourself that antonio bryant is the answer.

If you can convince yourself that Mike Nolan is the answer, I guess anything is possible!

[offiss]

LLoyd has abilty and we have the perfect coach in Saunders to extract that ability, the fact that LLoyd was able to do anything in that pathetic 9ers offense is remarkable 1 catch a game is a monster when you consider who the QB and the coach are.

[724Skinsfan]

I can't believe the Redskins were duped into thinking they had gotten a #1 receiver by trading for Lloyd. It's nice to have top notch investigative reporting clue us fools in to these diabolical scams such as this. I guess we can always settle with the memory of 52 point blowout against the 49ers.

[Daseal]

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

Anyhow, I'm not sold on Saunders getting production out of WRs. I think he gets great production from his O Line, RB, and TE. I still question what he can do with the QB and WR positions.

Granted he hasn't exactly had the best receivers or QBs to work with, but Im curious.

[Master4Caster]

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

She says Antonio Bryant is better than Lloyd, but not as good as Randle-El - who is also on the Redskin roster. I think Lloyd and Randle-El are both great additions. We mostly need them to just get open and catch the ball consistently. Anything else is a bonus.

There are deeper issues with the 49ers. Like, how come no real Bill Walsh disciple is coaching in the birthplace of the west coast offense? Why did they trade an ok QB with NFL experience (Tim Rattay) to start a rookie? Where's the running game and defense on this team? In head2head games with Arizona, coached by Walsh disciple Dennis Green (who probably should be coaching the Niners), who wins the series?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

That could be part of Jacobs' problem. Speaking purely from a self-confidence point of view, it's widely known that in order to compete in this league, every player has to look at himself like he's #1.

If people in San Fransisco think Lloyd is a #3 at best, and as That Guy pointed out, gives us just one spectacular play per game, that's still better than the two aforementioned bozos who lined up for us after Patten and Thrash were lost to injuries.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Master4Caster

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

moss did have a better track record and an 1100 yard season beforehand though... and he was definately a #2, not a #3 for a lot of his time in NY. though gardner also had a 1000 season and proceeded to do jack after he left, so i guess it works both ways.


gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

[MightyJoeGibbs]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Do you think Alex Smith is happy that he got VD in San Fransico?

San Fran will be looking in the draft next year for there number reciever b/c V Davis is going to be their workhorse, Bryant will catch 35 passes thats all.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by That Guy

gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).

wasn't noble a spurrier pick

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by steveo395

wasn't noble a spurrier pick

yeah, but gibbs chose not to cut him when it looked like his career was already over. most people had just assumed he was gone.

[Master4Caster]

Originally Posted by That Guy

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

Gud enuff 4 me 2!

[Redskins_P]

didn't we hear the same crap about Santana???

IMO, uis all about getting the opportunity to make plays, and in Al Saunders offense, I'm sure Lloyd will get his opportunities.

[Redskins8588]

People out in San Fran must be blind to the fact that in the 2005 season alone Lloyd had to catch balls from 4 different QB's (Alex Smith, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey and Cody Pickett) http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/SF. And 3 different QB's the year prior...