Steve McNair found shot to death!

MTK · 07-06-2009, 06:24 AM

I think it's pretty clear she killed him and then killed herself. If it turns out to be anything different I'll be surprised.

53Fan · 07-06-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's pretty clear she killed him and then killed herself. If it turns out to be anything different I'll be surprised.

No sign of forced entry. McNair shot 4 times, the woman shot once in the head. The gun found under her body. I think they're just checking all the angles before declaring it.

MTK · 07-06-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Titans being my second favorite team, I've been a big McNair fan for a while now. One of my favorite players ever was when he kept his balance scrambling out of the pocket on the final drive against the Rams to keep the drive going for a chance to win the Super Bowl. This is really a shame for everyone involved. Just goes to show we have no idea what goes in these people's lives off the field.

He was always one of my favorite players too. The term 'tough guy' gets tossed around too easily but it really did apply to him. I remember being won over by his SB performance too.

mredskins · 07-06-2009, 08:54 AM

Is it just me or is she really not that great looking, espically for all this crap.

Lotus · 07-06-2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

Is it just me or is she really not that great looking, espically for all this crap.

Maybe it is just a bad picture of her.

Matty and 53Fan are spot on with their comments above. McNair paid a heavy price for hooking up with that lady.

hail_2_da_skins · 07-06-2009, 09:19 AM

This is an absolute tradegy. I remember Steve McNair or Air McNair when he was quarterback for Alcorn St. Howard University and Alcorn State University played in the 1993 Gateway Classic at Busch Stadium St. Louis. It was an unbelievable shootout between Air McNair and Jay Walker of Howard. Howard won by a field goal 38 - 36 with 1:05 remaining. One of the best college football games I ever saw.

vallin21 · 07-06-2009, 09:38 AM

Totally agree with 53 and Matty, this is nothing more than a murder suicide. I'm guessing after that 20 yr old got the DUI on Thursday McNair wanted to break it off because it probably was going to go public and bring him shame, but she still wanted to be with him and that's when she killed him and then herself.

Very sad. I feel for his wife and 4 kids.

RIP

mredskins · 07-06-2009, 09:47 AM

I don't know the guy from Adam but everyone keeps saying he is such a great guy. Last time I checked cheating on your wife is not a great guy. He may have done a lot for others but he let down the people that meant the most, (or at least should have meant the most) his family.

MTK · 07-06-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't know the guy from Adam but everyone keeps saying he is such a great guy. Last time I checked cheating on your wife is not a great guy. He may have done a lot for others but he let down the people that meant the most, (or at least should have meant the most) his family.

Just goes to show nobody is perfect.

Hog1 · 07-06-2009, 10:20 AM

Mredskins is correct...at least IMO. INfidelity would seem to dim the light of greatness as a humanitarian. Maybe just...........human

mredskins · 07-06-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just goes to show nobody is perfect.

I am not saying anyone is perfect espically myself but everyone keeps saying how awesome he is when in fact he has some major sins going on.

What I am really trying to drive at is not so much McNair but more the fact how as a society we tend to have a blind eye to our "heros" sins (not flaws becasue we all have flaws) because they can throw a football.

Who is celebrating the avg. guy/gal who has done a ton of charity work and has been faithful to their family? Nobody or at least not on a public level.

Sometimes I watch Extreme Homes and the people they help on there are just quit simply amazing. The things they have over come is amazing.

Ok rant off...sorry! =)

skinsfan69 · 07-06-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mredskins

I am not saying anyone is perfect espically myself but everyone keeps saying how awesome he is when in fact he has some major sins going on.

What I am really trying to drive at is not so much McNair but more the fact how as a society we tend to have a blind eye to our "heros" sins (not flaws becasue we all have flaws) because they can throw a football.

Who is celebrating the avg. guy/gal who has done a ton of charity work and has been faithful to their family? Nobody or at least not on a public level.

Sometimes I watch Extreme Homes and the people they help on there are just quit simply amazing. The things they have over come is amazing.

Ok rant off...sorry! =)

I'm not surprised that he was seeing someone else. It happens all the time and it happens more often when men are in a position of power/fame. Joe Theismann is one of my all time fav Redskins but he cheated on his wife. I don't think any less of him cause I don't care what he does behind closed doors. None of us know what was going on between McNair and his wife. It looks like they were just staying together because of the 4 kids but living seperate lives. And people are saying how awesome he is cause he's dead. That's just what happens. Look at when #21 died? Everyone talked about how he had turned his life around. No need to dwell on negatives when someone tragically dies.

JoeRedskin · 07-06-2009, 11:19 AM

Even the saints succumbed to temptation on occasion. If the best of us fails, what chance for the rest? We're human and, as such, all fall short of the glory of God. (Let me be clear, I am not offering McNair up for sainthood).

Steve McNair was a good man who did much good work in this world. Through the use of his god given abilities, he set an example of how to do well with the gifts given him at birth. At the same time, he was human and succumbed to human desires that cost him, those he loved, and those around him considerable loss and pain. The betrayal and pain caused by his choices to those he loved, shows that even the best, strongest and toughest among us can have a failing of will or spirit.

This failing, however, does not, and cannot, alter the fact that he gave freely to others and worked to improve the world in which he lived. This failing does not, and should not, change the recognition that he did these good works when it would have been just as easy to live off his riches and care only for a life of luxury.

To me, this failing does not change the example set by his good works. His failing does not, cannot and should not change the need for the rest of us imitate them. Rather, his failing demonstrates only that he was human; a trait we are all doomed to share.

When people like this die as a result of foolish, wrong choices that make some of us say "WTF?", it is important, to me, that the man's good works aren't turned against him by those who seek to promote evil agendas or those who would cry "hypocrite" when otherwise good people demonstrate very human failings. Recognizing what he did with his life - ALL that he did - we can remember him as a great athelete and a good man who made a bad choice and paid the ultimate price for it.

RIP Steve McNair. Peace be with you and with your family and the family of the young woman.

MTK · 07-06-2009, 11:50 AM

Well said JR.

skindeep · 07-06-2009, 11:50 AM

R.i.p.

07-06-2009, 06:24 AM	#46
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hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 68 Posts: 868	Re: Steve McNair found shot to death! This is an absolute tradegy. I remember Steve McNair or Air McNair when he was quarterback for Alcorn St. Howard University and Alcorn State University played in the 1993 Gateway Classic at Busch Stadium St. Louis. It was an unbelievable shootout between Air McNair and Jay Walker of Howard. Howard won by a field goal 38 - 36 with 1:05 remaining. One of the best college football games I ever saw. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

07-06-2009, 09:38 AM	#52
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,173	Re: Steve McNair found shot to death! Totally agree with 53 and Matty, this is nothing more than a murder suicide. I'm guessing after that 20 yr old got the DUI on Thursday McNair wanted to break it off because it probably was going to go public and bring him shame, but she still wanted to be with him and that's when she killed him and then herself. Very sad. I feel for his wife and 4 kids. RIP

07-06-2009, 09:47 AM	#53
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,529	Re: Steve McNair found shot to death! I don't know the guy from Adam but everyone keeps saying he is such a great guy. Last time I checked cheating on your wife is not a great guy. He may have done a lot for others but he let down the people that meant the most, (or at least should have meant the most) his family. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

07-06-2009, 10:20 AM	#55
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Steve McNair found shot to death! Mredskins is correct...at least IMO. INfidelity would seem to dim the light of greatness as a humanitarian. Maybe just...........human __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

07-06-2009, 11:19 AM	#58
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 61 Posts: 10,401	Re: Steve McNair found shot to death! Even the saints succumbed to temptation on occasion. If the best of us fails, what chance for the rest? We're human and, as such, all fall short of the glory of God. (Let me be clear, I am not offering McNair up for sainthood). Steve McNair was a good man who did much good work in this world. Through the use of his god given abilities, he set an example of how to do well with the gifts given him at birth. At the same time, he was human and succumbed to human desires that cost him, those he loved, and those around him considerable loss and pain. The betrayal and pain caused by his choices to those he loved, shows that even the best, strongest and toughest among us can have a failing of will or spirit. This failing, however, does not, and cannot, alter the fact that he gave freely to others and worked to improve the world in which he lived. This failing does not, and should not, change the recognition that he did these good works when it would have been just as easy to live off his riches and care only for a life of luxury. To me, this failing does not change the example set by his good works. His failing does not, cannot and should not change the need for the rest of us imitate them. Rather, his failing demonstrates only that he was human; a trait we are all doomed to share. When people like this die as a result of foolish, wrong choices that make some of us say "WTF?", it is important, to me, that the man's good works aren't turned against him by those who seek to promote evil agendas or those who would cry "hypocrite" when otherwise good people demonstrate very human failings. Recognizing what he did with his life - ALL that he did - we can remember him as a great athelete and a good man who made a bad choice and paid the ultimate price for it. RIP Steve McNair. Peace be with you and with your family and the family of the young woman. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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