Expectations for Griff and the 2012 Offense

[MTK]

I can see Griffin throwing for 3200-3500 yards, 18 TDs, 12 INTs, and adding another 400-600 yards on the ground and another 4-6 rushing TDs.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Never good at stats predictions but

RG3-22 TDs 13 INTs (4 of the TDs will be rushing TDs)

Leading Rusher (carries): Hightower

Leading Rusher (yards): Royster

Leading Rusher (TDs): Royster

Leading Receiver (receptions): Fred Davis/Garcon (tied)

Leading Receiver (yards): Hankerson

Leading Receiver (TDs): Hankerson

Using your template,

RG3 - 20 TD 11 Ints, 3 rushing TDs

Leading Rusher (yards and carries)- Royster

Leading Rushing TD- Hightower

Leading Receiver (recept and yards) - Garcon

Leading Receiver (TDs): Davis

Best O-Lineman: Silverblunt

Best Offensive Rookie not named RG3: Tom Compton

[30gut]

Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins were ranked 16th in offense in the NFL last year. With the brand new additions on offense, I expect that ranking to improve greatly in 2012. Can they do any worse than we they did last year? No, they can't. But expect to see more improvement. If the Redskins can somehow, someway, move into top ten in the NFL in total offense, then expect them to be a playoff team. Let's not forget too that the defense, which is coming off a solid year in 2011, will be even more improved also.

I think raw yards is poor way to measure the quality of an offense or defense but I agree that there only direction for the offense to go is up.

The offense was ranked 16th in total yards which is mostly based on being ranked 14th in passing yards but keep in mind they passed had the 5th most passing attempts in the NFL the other top 5 teams in passing attempts were also top 5 in passing yards.
Thus our passing attack is remarkably inefficient and non-productive.
More importantly the offense was 26th in scoring with 18 pt a game.

Off topic: the focus on yards as a metric for evaluating an offense or defense is a common misconception that leads people to think the Patroits had the worst defense in the NFL when they tied for 3rd in turnovers and 15th in points allowed.

[Monkeydad]

I'm going all out. 10-6. NFC East champs. 4-2 in the division, dropping one to the Giants and one to the Eagles...sweeping Dallas. Only the tough AFC North opponents hamper our record, but they'll beat up on all of the NFC East teams.


Lose the NFC championship after one win, back better than ever next season. 2014 SB champs in YR3 of RG3.

Griffin is ROY, Pro Bowl alternate after some starters make up injuries to get out of it. He'll outproduce Cam Newton and Michael Vick, his two most-frequent comparisons.

10 wins for #10.

Think I'm crazy? Deal with it.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I'm going all out. 10-6. NFC East champs. 4-2 in the division, dropping one to the Giants and one to the Eagles...sweeping Dallas. Only the tough AFC North opponents hamper our record, but they'll beat up on all of the NFC East teams.


Lose the NFC championship after one win, back better than ever next season. 2014 SB champs in YR3 of RG3.

Griffin is ROY, Pro Bowl alternate after some starters make up injuries to get out of it. He'll outproduce Cam Newton and Michael Vick, his two most-frequent comparisons.

10 wins for #10.

Think I'm crazy? Deal with it.

I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.

This, and again - This. Given that we had a 5 int game, and a 10 sack game, plus several other losses due in the most part to less then stellar QB play, and given the team went 3-1 with Rex playing ok, I think the improvement RGIII is expected to bring will let other pieces that have been berated (OL, WR corp) finally take a step up. BUT, I have drank the Koolaid so many times that even Jim Jones won't serve it to me. So let's see how Griff and the team do for the first year, then next year I will be ready to drink again.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This, and again - This. Given that we had a 5 int game, and a 10 sack game, plus several other losses due in the most part to less then stellar QB play, and given the team went 3-1 with Rex playing ok, I think the improvement RGIII is expected to bring will let other pieces that have been berated (OL, WR corp) finally take a step up. BUT, I have drank the Koolaid so many times that even Jim Jones won't serve it to me. So let's see how Griff and the team do for the first year, then next year I will be ready to drink again.

Freakin' hilarious CRed.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.

This. I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet. And I don't expect a Newton-like year from RG3 either. I am thinking somewhere in the 8-8 range, with ups and downs. Secondary will be one of the downs.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I don't think you are crazy. I am tempted to make similar predictions. But I am trying not to drink too much koolaid before camp even starts. I've been burned before.

I originally typed 11-5 before remembering we have Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Cincy this year.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by mooby

This. I'm not drinking the kool-aid yet. And I don't expect a Newton-like year from RG3 either. I am thinking somewhere in the 8-8 range, with ups and downs. Secondary will be one of the downs.

Why not?

Griffin is faster, smarter and has a better arm. Newton had ONE competent WR to throw to. Without Steve Smith, newton would have no one. He has a better O-line than RG3, but Griffin can run out of trouble just as well or better and has a better stable of RBs in my opinion.

He should AT LEAST match Newton's numbers, but I'd expect far fewer mistakes (INTs) and a better completion rate.

[mredskins]

Where is aceinthehouse? He have us at 16-0 with SB trophy.

[Monkeydad]

Hey, it COULD happen!


The Browns could do it too, since it's only July.

[Alvin Walton]

Can he come close to Cam Newtons rookie numbers?

Comp - 310
ATT - 517
21 TDs
17 Ints
4051 passing yards
706 rushing yards
14 rushing TDs

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Why not?

Griffin is faster, smarter and has a better arm. Newton had ONE competent WR to throw to. Without Steve Smith, newton would have no one. He has a better O-line than RG3, but Griffin can run out of trouble just as well or better and has a better stable of RBs in my opinion.

He should AT LEAST match Newton's numbers, but I'd expect far fewer mistakes (INTs) and a better completion rate.

All of Griffin's attributes are debatable, but my key reason for not drinking the kool-aid is the fact that he's a rookie qb. Newton is not the benchmark for which all rookie qb's should be judged by, as far as I'm concerned he's the exception, at least until seasons like the one he had are commonplace for a rookie qb. Newton also had two elite running backs in the backfield, and a wr who has stepped his game up when he has a decent qb under center. I hope the same can happen with Moss but I'm not holding my breath.

Long story short, I really hope RG3 proves me wrong, but if he played average to above-average football this year I won't be suprised. I don't expect him to be Jimmy Clausen 2.0, but I think he'll have his growing pains.

[Monksdown]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Can he come close to Cam Newtons rookie numbers?

Comp - 310
ATT - 517
21 TDs
17 Ints
4051 passing yards
706 rushing yards
14 rushing TDs

He'll have less INT's, less rushing td's, and less passing yards by about 500 yards. I'm optimistic that he can have td/int ratio of 2:1 with more than 500 yards rushing. His yardage wont match Cam because he will only play 14 games.