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08-14-2018, 01:59 PM | #46 | |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
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Honestly, one thing the league could do is to increase beyond the current 53 player roster. Owners don't want to do this, because it means more salaries for them to have to pay. But I think more players could help with wear and tear of players, especially during preseason.
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08-14-2018, 03:52 PM | #47 | |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
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I think a soft training camp exposes the players to more injuries. Players need to get accustomed to hitting and being hit. |
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08-14-2018, 04:56 PM | #48 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
Agree with Matty. You have to practice to play well, and you've got to have depth to withstand the inevitable injuries. Might as well practice hard so that the ones who do make it out without injuries are trained properly and ready to go.
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08-14-2018, 06:42 PM | #49 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
When are people going to start thinking this is more than just bad luck? Players getting injured seemed to go through the roof when Gruden took over.
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08-14-2018, 06:50 PM | #50 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
I'd be curious to know whether in the analysis of teams that have lots of injuries what you can learn when one looks at trends over years. So, for example, if we saw that team A was year-after-year at the bottom of the list in terms of lost players to injuries, I'd want to see if there's anything that they are doing (or not doing) that would seem to be the cause. This assumes, of course, that there are longer term trends, and I have no idea if it is true. But it would be interesting to know.
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08-14-2018, 07:48 PM | #51 | |
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We were among the very hardest hit with injuries last year but others were too - SF, NYG, and the Colts were all decimated too. We had bad luck but nothing you’d consider a statistical anomaly to the point where you can question Gruden’s processes. Doesn’t make sense. I do think maybe we need a tougher culture. But no amount of toughness can prevent an ACL. That shit just happens.
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08-14-2018, 09:21 PM | #52 | |
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08-14-2018, 10:35 PM | #53 | |
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Thompson and Reed are elite players but they fell in the draft because of injuries. CT broke his back and tore an ACL. Reed had several concussions in college. Same goes for free agents like Gallette and Taylor. Both were so broken down last year they shouldn’t count against IR. The same goes for DHall. Nicholson, Fuller, and Moreau all slipped in the draft because of injuries. Nicholson unfortunately has bad shoulders at the safety position which is unfortunate. Fuller was limited his rookie season while recovering from ACL surgery but was outstanding last year in the slot. Moreau was limited last year but we all expect him to play well but who knows if he can hold up. At least corners don’t take the beating RB and TE take. Nicholson will probably only survive 6 games. I got Reed in there for 8. CT will play 16 but daddy gruden is going to keep bubble wrap on him by limiting his touches to under 15 a game. The best ability is availability! |
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08-14-2018, 11:33 PM | #54 | |
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Interesting thought. Hopefully, we’ll see some results. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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08-15-2018, 05:17 AM | #55 | |
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08-15-2018, 05:31 AM | #56 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
My response is to the point of injuries and I agree with everyone here that there has been a major uptick in them over the last few years ,for many teams. While you're never going to stop injuries in the NFL, it is the nature of the beast I believe and this is"only my opinion" that much of these were(are) brought on by the collective bargaining agreement and the playing surface's now.
Yes there were injuries in the "older days" but not like this. Hitting was always what you did ,to me I don't think the players hit enough, when I played the more you hit the more you got use to it and to me the new rubber fields look great but just plain suck.Do I have any proof of any of this ,no. I never thought the sport should be a year round thing ,many players just don't get enough time off to recuperate. That's why these guys use to have 7 pre season games ....more time to get into game shape. I still believe these teams aren't ready when the season starts ,they still need at least another 3/4 weeks before they have it down. Again just my take ,thanks.
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08-15-2018, 08:47 AM | #57 | |
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A few more that come to mind: LB Shaun Dion Hamilton RB Keith Marshall Arie Kouandjio There are more, I cannot remember them all. Then we paid a lot of money on FA WR Paul Richardson, a player that has missed a lot due to injuries. We resigned G Shaun Lauvao who has missed a lot of time to injury We resigned TE Jordan Reed to a big contract knowing he has a reoccurring concussion problem. Our FO made these moves knowing our teams injury problems and that these players have a history. Maybe time to rethink this bargain shopping. |
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08-15-2018, 08:51 AM | #58 | |
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08-15-2018, 09:15 AM | #59 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
It just seems to me that there has been an increase in injuries across the league ever since the most recent CBA was ratified. There were some radical changes to OTA and practice scheduled that reduced the total number of practices & OTAs, reduced the total number of practices with pads, reduce the total number of practices with contact etc etc. But no changes to preseason or regular season pace of play. Players are not as physically and mentally prepared for 'game day' as they were before the last CBA was ratified. And I think the increase in pre-season injuries can be directly correlated to that.
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08-15-2018, 10:10 AM | #60 |
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Re: Derrius Guice’s ACL tear is latest example of the injury bug devouring the Redskins. Again. And again.
Are there any numbers showing that injuries have actually increased?
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