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Fact is we have a lot of needs and if we can pick up some extra picks in this deep draft those picks could go a long way in helping to rebuild the core of this roster. I think we'll end up taking Okung at #4 but we could end up making some deals later involving players (JC?) to pick up some extra picks. |
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04-19-2010, 10:27 AM | #48 |
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Yeah I guess but that is a dangerous risk. Once they draft a guy they lose every bit of contract leverage that they currently hold. They need a lot to nmake that a good team but they have a shot at a franchise QB. Not time to dick around. Sign him before the draft and avoid a holdout.
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I hope so, because that's how I feel about this post. To say this team "remained competitive" is the ultimate rose colored glasses. We lost to DETROIT(0-20something at the time), and barely beat St. Louis(the worst team last year) in the beginning of the season, and were BLOWN AWAY EMBARRASSINGLY by the NY:vomit:Giants, who went on to suffer two 40pt defeats in a row, at the end of the season. We were competitive for maybe 3-4 games last season, that we won 4 was amazing from what our team put on the field. That said, I agree wholeheartedly that the team absolutely suffered at the hands of all you mentioned, no need for the re-hash. OL play suffered from musical chairs as much if not more so than from injuries. If we pick up 4-5 picks in the 5th-7th round that would be dumb. IF we pick up 4-5 picks with several in the top 100, that would be incredible. We may have a fairly solid roster (from JoeRedskins post last week) but we also need an infusion of skilled youth, and more OL talent than just one LT. For me, if we trade back like cleveland did last year I would be ecstatic. If we take Okung, and sit till 103, I would be happy with Okung, and bummed that we could not take advantage of the depth in this draft class. |
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04-19-2010, 10:47 AM | #51 | |
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Whats perplexing is Kyle Shanahan stated in one of his interviews that he is satisfied with the OL product we have now. Said he has no problem with the OL as it is right now and believes we would be competative... as is. When asked who he would use at LT he stated Heyer was the LT today (meaning Sun.). He basically said most people think with the zone blocking scheme teams need smaller faster OL and he stated thats a fabrication. He stated they prefer big guys who are fast or can move in space relatively well.
So my question is.... is there any possible way between Buges and Zorns scheme is the reason the OL did not do so well and the new coach's have seen this and are happy with our talent? Quote:
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Mike Shanahan on the OL and Draft picks.....
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04-19-2010, 10:54 AM | #53 | |
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I still think if Clausen is there at 4, and we don't get a good offer to trade down, we should take him. We'd have cornered the market on QBs with Clausen, McNabb and Campbell and could then trade Clausen or McNabb to the highest bidder (probably Oakland or Buffalo) with the loser getting Campbell at a premium price.
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Hm I dont know why they dont think Oline is an issue..
I would be pretty upset if we got a QB. Not because I dont think the QBs are talented but because we have committed quite a bit to the QB position with McNabb. Would be a huge misuse of draft picks IMO to waste a first and 2 second round picks(for McNabb) on the QB position.
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I think they feel that way because they look at the guy that they replaced. He wasn't a good QB and the line played ok, not great, but ok. John Thompson asked Donovan how he could play behind this line and how he would deal with the type of pressure that #17 saw and he said that he could get the ball out quicker. Pick up on blitzes, change protections, so many things that can be done besides sitting there and blaming the O-Line later. This line isnt the Hogs, but I don't think you can know how good an O line is with a sub-par QB playing behind it. I don't think Heyer is all that good but I don't get paid to do what they do.
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I do remember Buges strongly taking up for the Right side of the line last preseason. His quote was something like (paraphrase) "don't ask me about the right side, those guys are fine! Ask me about a left tackle if Chris goes down" He of course was right that we needed a plan in the offseason for when Chris did go down, and who knows, if Chris had stayed in longer maybe the rest of the line would gel. But it points to the fact that we need a solid LT, AND a competent backup.
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The worst kept secret in the league is: The Redskins desperately need a Left Tackle.
It certainly doesn't help your bargaining position when everyone else knows it. ShanAllen and Co. can spin it any way they want, but they are not fooling anybody. No team is going to buy that they will draft any position other than LT. I think there is less than a 1% chance any team gives up draft picks to make a trade with them to move into the top 5. |
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How soon we all forget how srubadub our line was last year. It wasn't the scheme guys. They aren't good. Oh it may be possible to fool yourself into thinking they can be good somehow but last year they old guys looked old and the young guys looked average at best. It's always in the nature of a coach to think that he has the juice to "coach-up" a naturally talented player. Joe Bugel is perhaps one of the top 5 O-line coaches in the history of the game and he couldn't get a guy like Heyer to perform adequately. We're in trouble if they really think we can start #74 at LT and not get our QB killed. Better keep JC just in case I guess.
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I won't be surprised to see the Shanahans milk better production out of the OL this year, that said I'm 110% positive they are aware of the need to upgrade the talent at tackle, especially LT.
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