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In retrospect, maybe Snyder should have been more thorough before telling Zorn to name Sherman Smith his offensive coordinator
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Basically, this subject is divided into two opposing camps. One camp looks at that .455 winning percentage and cheers Dan Snyder for the keen insight he has brought to the franchise. Another camp looks at that .455 winning percentage, then looks around the league and is disgusted by ownership they regard as being more concerned with public relations than football games. One camp likes being champions of the offseason. The other camp would rather be champions of the Super Bowl. The priorities are so vastly different, I can't imagine any agreement on this issue will ever emerge.
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You mean that offensive coordinator who doesn't call plays? I'm sure it was tough for Snyder to give in on that. Hopefully, he wasn't too upset at settling for the entire defensive coaching staff, the special teams coach and half the offensive coaching staff. What a trooper.
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George Michael, a close friend of Dan Snyder and Joe Gibbs, on the role Snyder plays in the front office:
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Spence there is no reasoning with SS on the topic of the DS. he has his opinion, the majority of skins fans have a different one.
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Why would anyone doubt Snyder's involvement in personnel matters? The players usually confirm that after getting their big deals and thanking Snyder for his personal involvement. Of course Snyder is involved, that is why we have NO GM. Why do we think, Zorn is making the decisions to sign Haynesworth? Ummmmm, yeah right.
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Does it mean that Snyder, independent of Zorn and Snyder decided to go get this guy? Or does it mean Cerrato and staff did their yearly FA class evaluations and gave glowing reports on AH which caused Snyder to go get him. Big difference to me. |
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1. The meaning of what Michael said about Snyder's role is perfectly plain; 2. Those who like Snyder do not judge him by any tangible criteria [such as wins and losses] and are therefore unlikely to be impressed by any sort of argument against him, regardless of the facts or supporting evidence. Therefore, debates like these can be diverting for a few minutes, but are ultimately fruitless. Two people will never agree on something if they use entirely different criteria to judge that subject. People like me judge Snyder based on the available evidence -- wins and losses. People who oppose my view of Snyder judge him on other criteria. I do not pretend to know exactly what that criteria might be, but I know it isn't wins and losses.
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You know what. Seriously, whatever Dan Snyder likes we are trained to go against it. Remember when Dan Snyder was searching for his coach and the one pet peeve that the media had was that he was going to go out and get an established guy to see if he could recreate success there ? How he should go and find an unknown to be his guy for the future ? Remember how another big complaint was that he wanted to force the incoming coach to have Jason Campbell as his QB ? Oh yes, there was a time when JC was Snyders guy. And as soon as he gets Zorn, why him ? Why not a more established guy. Then do you remember over the summer when Danny wanted to get another Qb, all of a sudden Campbell is a great QB just on the brink of greatness ? It's the hatred of the Danny that drives some people.
I mean it is really ridiculous Spense how you can even make it like keeping everything outside of the offense as intact as you can as a bad thing. We complain about the lack of continuity and when you get that there is a problem. That's what I'm talking about !
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[QUOTE=freddyg12;600270]Searched elsewhere for this on the wp & almost put it in an existing thread ("Lavar's twitter" led to discussion of our owner).
But I felt it was such a strong & well written article that it had to stand alone. I know a lot of us have been unhappy w/Sally Jenkins over the years, but based on my limited knowledge as only a fan, I really find it hard to disagree w/most of what she says. I've always felt the biggest difference between JJ & DS was that Jerry is at least accessible to the public & makes himself somewhat accountable. Here's the link: Agree fully. About the only thing Jenkins left out was the appropriate last line: "resign, you silly twit, and let an adult take over!" As good old Ken Beatrice used to say, "a fish rots from the head." Zorn and Campbell may be in over their heads, but they're doing the best they can. Let's put the blame on the idiots who hired them, noting that these are only two of the many disastrous moves they've made. Many of us remember Jack Kent Cooke, who may not have been one of nature's noblemen as a human being, but who, in retrospect, was a superb owner. He hired professionals and gave them time to get the job done. He demanded long-term competence but never interfered short-term. I had been a Redskins fan since 1971, but, as of last Sunday night, I've checked out until Snyder sells the team. As a protest, I'll be rooting for the Steelers until that happens. Why the Steelers? Simple. They exemplify the kind of ownership and management needed in Washington. |
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And that exemplifies the kind of bandwagon jumping that got the Cowboys so many fans in the 90s. I don't root for owners, I root for the damn team and players who are trying so hard for us.
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Well if you'll be rooting for the Steelers why don't you join a Steelers board ? Or change your avatar ? I don't understand "longtime fans" like you. Did you feel that way in '05 ? Doubt it, go on and cheer for the Steelers and have a good time with your towels.
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10-01-2009, 02:50 PM | #60 |
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Here are a couple of JKC articles that make for an interesting read
A Foundation for Success - Redskins: Owner Jack Kent Cooke and Coach Joe Gibbs enjoy a strong working relationship after three Super Bowls and several tough losses. (page 2) - Los Angeles Times In his own estimation, at least, Jack Kent Cooke, the - 12.16.91 - SI Vault And here's another interesting article from 15 years ago That's what the fans are asking as the Washington - 10.03.94 - SI Vault
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