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Source: Kasich, Hickenlooper consider unity presidential ticket in 2020 - CNNPolitics
Would def give this strong consideration
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Unrelated side note, it's a good time to be a top law enforcement official convicted in a court of law of disobeying a judge's direct order. At least he's not Sheriff Joe anymore.
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i would love something like this. thought kasich was definitely the best candidate the GOP had/ have
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I am all for it,anything is better than what we have in there now!!!
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Trump admin talking points: DACA recipients should prepare to leave US
"With all the compassion in my heart, I just want to tell these young illegals, to gtfo. Lousy foreigners, I mean come on these kids can't even hold down jobs. Stop breathing the sweet air of freedom, you're Mehico's problem now."
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Whoa, she gets the hot blonde exception. This only applies to dirty Mexicans.
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09-06-2017, 11:25 AM | #9 |
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So fucking tired of Trump's shit
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Taking the visceral anti-Trump reaction out the equation, the bottom line is that Obama's unilateral determination to administratively nullify laws on the books was a HUGE deal. Sure, it was for a good thing - who could oppose "Dreamers" motivated to succeed. I mean, how could anyone refuse to help these kids?
I don't know. Ask Congress. The legislative branch specifically refused to enact a law that would have created a legal exemption for DACA kids. After the legislature refused to rescind the law prohibiting it, Obama decided that the rule of law is for losers and meanies. He had a pen and phone, <in my best bandito voice> "Laws? We don't need no stinking laws!" Obama justified the refusal to enforce on the executive branch's prosecutorial discretion (Congress makes the laws, the President enforces them - but sometimes POTUS just can't enforce them all, so he gets to pick and choose what to enforce). The administrative DACA rule was a really big step the usurpation of legislative power by the executive. Sure, this time it was for a good thing. But the funny thing about laws in a common law society is that once a branch of government expands its authority, particularly the executive branch which is entrusted with police powers, it generally does move back. Today the POTUS says, he we just want to help kids. Tomorrow, enforcing this law would make it tough for business, enforcing this law makes it hard for cops to do their job, enforcing this law stops us from monitioring everyone allowing the bad guys to stir up bad stuff and break down society. No, No ... don't worry about passing any new laws, we'll just do stuff that we think is best - We have pens and a phone (and the police, prosecutors, army, etc.) You want to be pissed? Get angry at Congress for failing to lawfully enact Daca in the first place. The have six months to come up with a fix. Call you congressman and tell them to get off there ass.
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Good post Joe, that's some insight I didn't think about, tbh I didn't follow the process of how DACA got enabled in the first place. But you're right, if Obama overstepped his authority to ride it through that's not cool, especially considering the doors it opens for future presidents. I still hold out hope Congress will do the right thing, even if their track record says otherwise.
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NO, yes JR is right(as always) about DACA.But why now,why do this now?These are not the criminals he was talking about during the campaign ,yes make Congress do their job.Don't blame Obama,he was trying to do the right thing with a Congress that turned down anything with his name on it and this is the result of Congress not doing the job they were elected to do. If the people around trump have any sense at all they will find a way to fix this nightmare or the GOP is going to pay in a big way.
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NO, yes JR is right(as always) about DACA.But why now,why do this now?These are not the criminals he was talking about during the campaign ,yes make Congress do their job.Don't blame Obama,he was trying to do the right thing with a Congress that turned down anything with his name on it and this is the result of Congress not doing the job they were elected to do. If the people around trump have any sense at all they will find a way to fix this nightmare or the GOP is going to pay in a big way.I will add that I do believe that trump decided to play with this now becuase of the Mueller investigations.Yeah I think he is that big pf an ass.
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Matt, FYI all I'm saying is if Obama overstepped his boundaries to get shit passed, it might have worse ramifications down the road, especially with this current clown show. DACA was obviously intended to help the less fortunate, and I'm all for it. But this is just the latest step in Trump's anti-Obama legislation, I'm pretty sure the magic words are "Obama did this" and Trump gets gung ho about getting rid of it. And his fans eat this shit up. One of my coworkers thinks these kids aren't getting vetted before acceptance into the program (his reasoning is the gov't can't afford it or they don't care). It's comical. DREAMers are just the latest disadvantaged people getting the shaft.
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Here we go with the Thanks Obama shit. Trump and this admin are full of turds. Congress too. Fuck em all. They're fucking with good people's lives. Fuck their bullshit.
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