Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum


Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-13-2009, 11:04 PM   #1
warpaint
The Starter
 
warpaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: The Great State of Texas
Posts: 1,022
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Danny Smith I'm tired of putting ARE on my smack down list seemingly every week. So I'm putting it on the coach now. C'mon Danny, enough is enough. Get ARE off the field for punt returns already.
EXACTLY Its on D.Smith now.

ARE is making me F-ing sick to my stomach.
__________________
"Not only do you get a 1st down, but you get a whole new set of downs" John Madden
warpaint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:08 PM   #2
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 15,994
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Against the 6 patsies we played last year, we were 3-3. Against the 6 patsies we played this year, we remained 3-3. (I counted 09 Carolina and 08 SF as "patsies", if you disagree, then it just goes to 3-2 in five games).

The only difference was that last year in 10 games against quality opponents (6 divisional games, 4 non-divisional games), we went 5-5. This year, in 7 games against quality opponents, we are 1-6. But three of those losses came in the exact same venues against the exact same teams that we beat last year, and we played them about as well as anyone has played them, but with an unfortunate result.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:16 PM   #3
FRPLG
MVP
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 45
Posts: 10,164
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

I agree Moss ought to be our slot and returner. At this point he and ARE are the same type player but Moss is faster and can do some stuff on returns.

My biggest concern right now is Landry. He simply can't cover. At all. He got abused by a marginal QB with marginal WRs. He's a liability on the field. A big time liability. I'd have benched him today after the first half. He was that bad.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:25 PM   #4
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 15,994
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPLG View Post
I agree Moss ought to be our slot and returner. At this point he and ARE are the same type player but Moss is faster and can do some stuff on returns.

My biggest concern right now is Landry. He simply can't cover. At all. He got abused by a marginal QB with marginal WRs*. He's a liability on the field. A big time liability. I'd have benched him today after the first half. He was that bad.
Actually, a RB and a TE today.

Blache eventually adjusted, about two big plays after any other coordinator in the league would have, but also two big plays before I was expecting him to realize that Landry was in a mismatch. So that's an improvement of 50% by my math.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:30 PM   #5
FRPLG
MVP
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 45
Posts: 10,164
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
Actually, a RB and a TE today.

Blache eventually adjusted, about two big plays after any other coordinator in the league would have, but also two big plays before I was expecting him to realize that Landry was in a mismatch. So that's an improvement of 50% by my math.
True, I should have amended my post to say marginal pass catchers. I continue to wonder why a guy like Rogers gets benched and Landry stays in. Landry is at least as bad at his position as Rogers is. I'd say he is worse. I mean landry gets beat badly. He doesn't get beat stupidly trying to make a big play. He gets beat like a guy of the street would get beat. Over and over.
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:40 PM   #6
GTripp0012
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 36
Posts: 15,994
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPLG View Post
True, I should have amended my post to say marginal pass catchers. I continue to wonder why a guy like Rogers gets benched and Landry stays in. Landry is at least as bad at his position as Rogers is. I'd say he is worse. I mean landry gets beat badly. He doesn't get beat stupidly trying to make a big play. He gets beat like a guy of the street would get beat. Over and over.
Blache decided last year that Rogers wasn't capable of playing corner in his system. Why? Baffles the best of us. We're really not even sure what his system is, frankly. Last year, we were blitz-happy, more than any other team in the league, but we weren't very good at it. This year, we blitz a lot less, and are a little bit better at it than we were last year.

Blache is an odd dude. I would say that his decision making doesn't make me comfortable, but that would be disingenuous. He makes decisions that seem to be more based about making himself comfortable than actually winning the ball game. And as a result, I have no idea whether he's succeeding or failing.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 12:28 AM   #7
skinsfan69
Living Legend
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 17,143
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
Blache decided last year that Rogers wasn't capable of playing corner in his system. Why? Baffles the best of us. We're really not even sure what his system is, frankly. Last year, we were blitz-happy, more than any other team in the league, but we weren't very good at it. This year, we blitz a lot less, and are a little bit better at it than we were last year.

Blache is an odd dude. I would say that his decision making doesn't make me comfortable, but that would be disingenuous. He makes decisions that seem to be more based about making himself comfortable than actually winning the ball game. And as a result, I have no idea whether he's succeeding or failing.
Rogers got benched last year cause he deserved it. And don't you think Rogers position coach has a say in his playing time? Or do you think it's just Blache?
skinsfan69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2009, 11:58 PM   #8
rbanerjee23
The Starter
 
rbanerjee23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,440
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

JC is the man...okay before you crucify me, he is not the man, but he is not half bad
__________________
"Tough times don't last but tough people do"

-Mike Shanahan

HTTR
rbanerjee23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 12:09 AM   #9
duetsch215
Special Teams
 
duetsch215's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Richmond (School at ODU)
Posts: 100
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

you cant get a good game free of bullcrap calls from the refs anymore
__________________
I'm a smart fella, and you're a fart smella
duetsch215 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 01:10 AM   #10
mike340
Special Teams
 
mike340's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 67
Posts: 322
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

I think Landry would make a great wide receiver. After all, he seems to always be wide open when the ball comes his way.
mike340 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 02:00 AM   #11
SBXVII
Franchise Player
 
SBXVII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,766
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Whoever played LT allowed one sack atleast by simply turning in and helping to block down inside....completely left his man on the outside free to sack the QB. We definitly need some young, healthy, strong OL. Perhaps a better blocking scheme would work also. Cue Alex Gibbs.

JC didn't do bad but didn't do great either. He's proven he can take a hit. My issues still remain; he fails to move his protection to the blitzing side (in other words reading defenses), He seems to throw behind his receivers as if he can't anticipate and throw the ball where they "will" be vs. where they have been (an example would be Davis's 20yrd catch he had to slow down and turn completely around to catch the ball, and Moss's slant which he dropped the ball.), My last issue I still think he is throwing too hard on the 5-10 yrd routes and an expample would be the pass to ARE that was not only over thrown but too hard and slipped through his hands.

ARE, wow, no wonder the Steelers didn't put up so much money for you. At this point can we just let Thomas do KR/PR and Perhaps let Kelly take up the slot or move Moss to that positions and make Thomas and Kelly our two main WR's for the rest of the season just to give them some work. Right now I'm thinking of even putting Mitchell ahead of ARE.

Danny Smith, whoever is HC next year needs to let this man go. Our ST have not been that great "ever" since he's been here. Not sure if it's his scheme or the lack of players carrying it out but either way it has not worked. We need a bona fide ST coach. Someone who knows what the hell they are doing or atleast knows how to do it better then Smith.

Landry, hello is there anyother way you can get burned? I would say maybe you should be covering a TE but most likely you would whiff on that also. However you finally looked better as the SS.

Rogers, I'm not sure what to say. Someone said he screwed up also. I guess I forgot or missed that it was him. I hate to say it but I hope he decides to go elsewhere for more money next year or I pray someone decides to fork over the money for his lame ass.

Whats bad points with out the good.....

Ganther, dude I'm glad we picked you up. It's fun to finally see a RB who is difficult to bring down like what Dallas and the Giants have. Definitly need to shed the dead wood this off season if there's no CAP, bye Portis, Betts, and Rock.

Davis, man just keep impressing all the time. Don't fret the penalty man any other time and that's not a penalty. Refs were simply trying to keep Oak in the game as best they could.

Thomas, is getting better all the time.

Sherm Lewis, Another good game plan executed well.

Orakpo, when turned lose he's a monster. Definitly should be Rookie of the year.

Alexander, brother what a way to step up and show your worth. Both on ST and getting a sack.

Carter, Great job too bad your not young like Orakpo. Not sure how much longer you'll be with us due to age.

Fletcher, Although your doing your job quietly it's amazing to watch.

Great game, second week in a row with 30 points. Now I'm getting truly scared. I want to see Cerrato, Zorn and Co. out the door. People keep giving credit to Cerrato and Snyder will come up with some lame excuse to keep him. If there is any part that needs to be kept for the future it would be Sherm Lewis...not sure if he can fit in with whatever new regime comes in.....assuming it's Shanahan then most likely he brings his son, would love to have Alex Gibbs, and maybe they can bring in Kubiak as Asst. HC. Shanahan's son can be OC. I'm just not sure what we could call Sherm Lewis in order to help out with the game planning. I guess if we fail to pick up Shanahan's son cause someone offers him a HCing job we can keep Lewis.

Edit: How on earth could I forget ...Gano! Boy you Rock. Keep the kicks coming.
SBXVII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 03:11 AM   #12
takethecake
Special Teams
 
takethecake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Bethesda, MD
Age: 35
Posts: 281
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Ganther continues to impress me. He can't really block much right now, but we might be spoiled because we have the best blocking back in the league in Clinton Portis. Still, I love the way Ganther hits the hole and fights for the extra yards. I hope we find a place on the roster for him next year.
I remember the first time ganther saw action he had a couple nice blocks in pass pro. Didn't see much today in that department, but I know he can do it

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
And finally, can't say enough about Lorenzo Alexander-making tackles on special teams, blocking on rushing touchdowns, getting a sack.
Alexander is a beast. I always get upset when the new Maddens come out and he's only rated somewhere in the 50s...

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
The Raiders defensive line is underrated but still Campbell bailed out his line all day. He got little to no help from them today. I couldn't tell exactly who was the main culprit (I'll have to go back and see), but it looked Rabach.
I saw poor play by several members of the line today. On the first sack, Jones went to help block in the middle and let a linebacker come in untouched. Pretty sure that wasn't how the play was drawn up. Heyer allowed a sack too on an edge rush, although campbell did have a long dropback on that play. And yeah, rabach did get abused more than a few times. I guess the only decent play was from Williams and Dock.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
Nice forced fumble and key interception. Still he was getting targeted and abused by Gradkowski the whole first half.
I wonder if landry's ever going to understand... How do you get beat by a running back AND a tight end ONE WEEK after you let new orleans burn you twice? Isn't there supposed to be some sort of knowledge gained from these experiences...? At some point we've got to start blaming blache for this, I mean seriously....


Completely agree with the smackdown on ARE... this is now two muffed punts within how many weeks? Also agree on the refs and their lack of consistency this season, did you see the baltimore-green bay game with the cornucopia of PI calls?

Plus, let's not forget the props for Gano... his first FG attempt in the NFL from 46 and he nailed it.
takethecake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 04:23 AM   #13
SirClintonPortis
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
How do you get beat by a running back
McFadden is pretty good player in his own right, and is very athletic.
NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Darren McFadden
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 07:12 AM   #14
mlmdub130
Playmaker
 
mlmdub130's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Age: 41
Posts: 3,238
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis View Post
McFadden is pretty good player in his own right, and is very athletic.
NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Darren McFadden
and laron isn't? i know mcfadden is good, but laron is supposed should be able to cover a running back
__________________
"I don't think anybody should have regrets, especially me, ... You don't regret what you do in your life. If you do it, you do it for a reason."

ST21
mlmdub130 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 10:58 AM   #15
SirClintonPortis
Pro Bowl
 
SirClintonPortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 6,052
Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Raiders)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlmdub130 View Post
and laron isn't? i know mcfadden is good, but laron is supposed should be able to cover a running back
McFadden could definitely be a #2 receiver somewhere, and we all know how Landry fared against Mecheam.
SirClintonPortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.22883 seconds with 10 queries