Niles Paul... Tight End?

SmootSmack · 05-10-2012, 03:42 PM

Chris Cooley has to show he's healthy during minicamps or he's likely gone

The Goat · 05-10-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Chris Cooley has to show he's healthy during minicamps or he's likely gone

Cooley has been one of my favs, but I think the above is fair.

Moss is a different story IMHO. He's the only proven WR on the roster in this system and Mike would be an absolute fool to put his eggs in the Garcon, Hankerson, Morgan basket. Hankerson had one solid game as a pro, coming off serious injury. Garcon and Morgan are brand new to the system. Morgan an injury risk and Garcon historically inconsistent.

...I think Mike has already been a little silly to name these three guys as potential starters while leaving Moss out. Sometimes he looks/acts like young, inexperienced coach.

NYCskinfan82 · 05-10-2012, 04:58 PM

Could also be based on the Cap Hit, Cooley's due alot of $$$ this year if we release or he dosen't want to redo his contract and we let him go we might need someone to step in. We have to remember we have a limited amount of spots on this team the more things you can do the better your chances.

VegasSkinsFan · 05-10-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

Could also be based on the Cap Hit, Cooley's due alot of $$$ this year if we release or he dosen't want to redo his contract and we let him go we might need someone to step in. We have to remember we have a limited amount of spots on this team the more things you can do the better your chances.

I could see cooly signing with the giants. That would break my heart

freddyg12 · 05-11-2012, 12:16 PM

I totally forgot about them using Cooley at FB. Now that Sellers is gone, he could see more action there, provided he is healthy. Not saying he's gonna get a lot of reps, but they need a backup FB.

Who else at present is a backup to Young?

Monksdown · 05-11-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I totally forgot about them using Cooley at FB. Now that Sellers is gone, he could see more action there, provided he is healthy. Not saying he's gonna get a lot of reps, but they need a backup FB.

Who else at present is a backup to Young?

The rookie rb we drafted i thought.

mooby · 05-11-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Who else at present is a backup to Young?

Owen "Schmitty" Schmitt.

SmootSmack · 05-11-2012, 04:01 PM

Has he signed?

Monkeydad · 05-11-2012, 04:02 PM

Not with us. Not yet at least.

mooby · 05-11-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Not with us. Not yet at least.

Oh. I thought he did? Apparently not.

los panda · 05-11-2012, 05:13 PM

if young or morris can't get the job done at fb, i'd rather have sellers back than bleeding forehead signed

Gary84Clark · 05-11-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Cooley has been one of my favs, but I think the above is fair.

Moss is a different story IMHO. He's the only proven WR on the roster in this system and Mike would be an absolute fool to put his eggs in the Garcon, Hankerson, Morgan basket. Hankerson had one solid game as a pro, coming off serious injury. Garcon and Morgan are brand new to the system. Morgan an injury risk and Garcon historically inconsistent.

...I think Mike has already been a little silly to name these three guys as potential starters while leaving Moss out. Sometimes he looks/acts like young, inexperienced coach.

During open competition Moss is gonna win.

Skins4L · 05-11-2012, 08:22 PM

i really like our TE situation. Freds the obvious guy to start the year. Cooley as a heavy spell, packages with them both on the field. The fact that Shanahan has confidence in Niles Paul is nice to see in case something doesnt work out. I dont like the idea of him being moved just to get rid of Cooley.. Cooley has a few years left if he can stay on the field... cause you dont lose your HANDS with time... hes always had great hands he still will its the YAC im worried about. Because hes smart hell get open.

Skins4L · 05-11-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

During open competition Moss is gonna win.

Moss is dirty, always get a little YAC hes still explosive at his age. Every now and then youll see him miss something i would have like to seen him caught. But Moss is CLUTCH. RG3 will give him a spark where Santana might have actually declined more this year without him. well see..

warriorzpath · 05-12-2012, 03:04 PM

The Niles Paul and Lorenzo Alexander experiments say a few things to me with Mike Shanahan and the Redskins.

1) The Redskins are deficient with blocking at the TE position.
2) He values Special Teams play and rewards the ST standout players (and the team) by trying to find playing time for them on the offensive and defensive units. Effort and working hard = Special Teams performance
3) Paul and Alexander appear to be guaranteed to be on the 53 player roster as long as they continue to put at least the same amount of effort.
I'd be shocked if Paul is not on the roster for the first regular season game.
4) All roads and decisions lead to RGIII -- especially this early in the offseason. These experiments say more to me with their adjustments and the things they are planning with Griffin III, more than anything Shanahan has said in the media (which is a bit surprising in itself, since he usually doesn't reveal much).
5) If these experiments don't work out -- I wouldn't be surprised if they traded for or signed a TE, whose strength is blocking.

To expand a little more with #4 and #5 -- I think Mike Shanahan is genuinely excited with all the different things that he is envisioning with RGIII. And in order to do that, he needs to have at least one good blocking TE. With a good blocking Tight End and RGIII, I think Shanahan will be able to implement what he already has said -- to show the NFL what it's never seen before. I, for one, can see the same thing -- with (advanced) designed boot-legs, roll-outs, stretch-running plays designed for RGIII headed toward the sidelines.

What's the cornerback going to do with these plays headed right for him? Play the wideout or play RGIII, who is sprinting full 4.41 speed designed to beat him and gain at least 10 "easy" yards?

This is the reason why I'm hoping and I think that the Redskins are hoping that 6th-round draft pick Alfred Morris shows the NFL potential that he showed in college. That strong, bruising style will complement the speed of RGIII and the one-cut style running backs already on the roster.

As of Cooley, I think that he isn't in danger of being cut unless he is not healthy -- because they will need him to contribute in the passing game, and as the main backup to the starting "receiving" TE, Fred Davis.

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freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Niles Paul... Tight End? I totally forgot about them using Cooley at FB. Now that Sellers is gone, he could see more action there, provided he is healthy. Not saying he's gonna get a lot of reps, but they need a backup FB. Who else at present is a backup to Young?

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Skins4L Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 886	Re: Niles Paul... Tight End? i really like our TE situation. Freds the obvious guy to start the year. Cooley as a heavy spell, packages with them both on the field. The fact that Shanahan has confidence in Niles Paul is nice to see in case something doesnt work out. I dont like the idea of him being moved just to get rid of Cooley.. Cooley has a few years left if he can stay on the field... cause you dont lose your HANDS with time... hes always had great hands he still will its the YAC im worried about. Because hes smart hell get open. __________________ ALL HAIL

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warriorzpath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,880	Re: Niles Paul... Tight End? The Niles Paul and Lorenzo Alexander experiments say a few things to me with Mike Shanahan and the Redskins. 1) The Redskins are deficient with blocking at the TE position. 2) He values Special Teams play and rewards the ST standout players (and the team) by trying to find playing time for them on the offensive and defensive units. Effort and working hard = Special Teams performance 3) Paul and Alexander appear to be guaranteed to be on the 53 player roster as long as they continue to put at least the same amount of effort. I'd be shocked if Paul is not on the roster for the first regular season game. 4) All roads and decisions lead to RGIII -- especially this early in the offseason. These experiments say more to me with their adjustments and the things they are planning with Griffin III, more than anything Shanahan has said in the media (which is a bit surprising in itself, since he usually doesn't reveal much). 5) If these experiments don't work out -- I wouldn't be surprised if they traded for or signed a TE, whose strength is blocking. To expand a little more with #4 and #5 -- I think Mike Shanahan is genuinely excited with all the different things that he is envisioning with RGIII. And in order to do that, he needs to have at least one good blocking TE. With a good blocking Tight End and RGIII, I think Shanahan will be able to implement what he already has said -- to show the NFL what it's never seen before. I, for one, can see the same thing -- with (advanced) designed boot-legs, roll-outs, stretch-running plays designed for RGIII headed toward the sidelines. What's the cornerback going to do with these plays headed right for him? Play the wideout or play RGIII, who is sprinting full 4.41 speed designed to beat him and gain at least 10 "easy" yards? This is the reason why I'm hoping and I think that the Redskins are hoping that 6th-round draft pick Alfred Morris shows the NFL potential that he showed in college. That strong, bruising style will complement the speed of RGIII and the one-cut style running backs already on the roster. As of Cooley, I think that he isn't in danger of being cut unless he is not healthy -- because they will need him to contribute in the passing game, and as the main backup to the starting "receiving" TE, Fred Davis.

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