Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise

celts32 · 10-01-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it

Amen...from your keyboard to Gods ears.

SBXVII · 10-01-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it

Exactly, I recall all the older vets complaining that they should not have to do all the same work that the younger rookies were doing. Maybe he was trying to build team unity, who knows but some didn't like it.

Longtimefan · 10-01-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The problem with Marty is that he arrived right after Norv Turner. Under Turner, there was no accountability and that's a big reason why we underachieved for years under him. Marty came along and said you know what, I don't care how much talent we have here, how many Hall of Famers are on the roster, we're going to work hard and be accountable. But then guys like Darrell Green and Bruce Smith said "Wait a minute, we've been to the Super Bowl and you haven't. We're future Hall of Famers wrapping up our careers. Don't tell us how to play the game."

I would love, love, love for Marty to come back. Love it

Bruce Smith drew his last breath with Marty in Carlisle the last time we were there for training camp. Marty had him do the Oklahoma drill a couple times and the expression Bruce wore that day I will never forget. This team has not bonded the same way it did when camp was in Carlisle. I really miss going up there.

Hog1 · 10-01-2009, 04:15 PM

How old is Marty?

SmootSmack · 10-01-2009, 04:28 PM

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How old is Marty?

66 years old.

CultBrennan59 · 10-01-2009, 04:31 PM

He also wants mike shanahan

SBXVII · 10-01-2009, 06:44 PM

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He also wants mike shanahan

I'm not going to say anything bad about Shanahan. I think he would be good also and early over the summer I thought him or Cowher would be a good choice. As HC. I've just had time to think about it and if..."if" DS brought in a decent GM, someone who knows football, ie; Marty, then the GM would have to be able to get a long with his HC. Which is why I say Marty and his son Brian.

If we pick one of the others, Shanahan or Cowher as HC who do we pick up as GM that would get a long with them well enough? Just asking.

SmootSmack · 10-01-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm not going to say anything bad about Shanahan. I think he would be good also and early over the summer I thought him or Cowher would be a good choice. As HC. I've just had time to think about it and if..."if" DS brought in a decent GM, someone who knows football, ie; Marty, then the GM would have to be able to get a long with his HC. Which is why I say Marty and his son Brian.

If we pick one of the others, Shanahan or Cowher as HC who do we pick up as GM that would get a long with them well enough? Just asking.

One guy Cowher has said he wouldn't mind working for is....Marty Schottenheimer

SBXVII · 10-01-2009, 10:23 PM

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One guy Cowher has said he wouldn't mind working for is....Marty Schottenheimer

Then it all boils down to can DS eat crow and hire a winner or has that ship sailed and DS won't bring in anyone he's fired before?

SmootSmack · 10-01-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Then it all boils down to can DS eat crow and hire a winner or has that ship sailed and DS won't bring in anyone he's fired before?

Well it also boils down to does Marty want to come back, does Cowher want to come here? Do they really want to work together?

Dirtbag59 · 10-01-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

He also wants mike shanahan

If Shanahan is calling the plays then great. If Shanahan is picking the players then I'd rather have Vinny. If anyone was worse at picking players then Vinny it was Shanahan. Honestly though (as if I was going to lie) I'd rather just have Snyder hire a real GM (*cough* DeCosta *cough*) give him a bunch of money and say "alright find me a coach and get me some players." Sort of like how JKC ran things. None of this crap about knowing what they eat for breakfast in fact better yet get me someone where the only thing you know about them is their favorite type of Cigar after a big win.

Swarley · 10-01-2009, 05:23 PM

GM for GM

warpaint · 10-01-2009, 05:58 PM

I feel good about us turning this thing around this year. It's barely week 4. My whole thing is V.Cerrato I dont know anything about him but for some reason he is the only one who hasnt been fired threw all these years. Can anyone enlighten me if able thanks.

SBXVII · 10-01-2009, 07:00 PM

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I feel good about us turning this thing around this year. It's barely week 4. My whole thing is V.Cerrato I dont know anything about him but for some reason he is the only one who hasnt been fired threw all these years. Can anyone enlighten me if able thanks.

Honestly I hope we can turn this around and go 9-7 or better, but I just don't see it. They couldn't beat the Rams and couldn't beat the last place Lions....which to me puts us in last place.

I have lobbied for Cerrato to be fired, and most recently have kinda stuck up for him in regards to his latest draft picks. Although we might not have needed them I think they are good players. But if Zorn is getting fired I would push for "Rebuild mode" and if DS does not want to fire Cerrato then create a new position and put him in that spot but clearly hire a football knowlegable GM and HC who can get a long and start fresh.

Skinny Tee · 10-01-2009, 07:17 PM

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Honestly I hope we can turn this around and go 9-7 or better, but I just don't see it. They couldn't beat the Rams and couldn't beat the last place Lions....which to me puts us in last place.

I have lobbied for Cerrato to be fired, and most recently have kinda stuck up for him in regards to his latest draft picks. Although we might not have needed them I think they are good players. But if Zorn is getting fired I would push for "Rebuild mode" and if DS does not want to fire Cerrato then create a new position and put him in that spot but clearly hire a football knowlegable GM and HC who can get a long and start fresh.

I don't see how Zorn can't be fired after this year. I think we've found that our patchwork coaching staff isn't going to make the push we thought it would after Gibbs 2.0 left.

Rebuild it all because there is nothing competitive about this team to hold to.

The George Michael segment was awesome and I really like GM but really it seemed like a lot of his assessments were done off of the pretense that he personally knows Snyder, Cerrato & Sonny very personally.

The piece that stuck out with me was that Grilliams couldn't have been coach here because Snyder didn't like him because of the "Marty-like" personality. That Marty-like personality is the ONLY thing that is going to dig this franchise out of the grave it's dug itself.

Snyder doesn't want anyone coming between his influence over the roster...that was just 2 years ago...looks like we're in trouble.

10-01-2009, 04:15 PM	#4
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise How old is Marty? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

10-01-2009, 04:31 PM	#6
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise He also wants mike shanahan

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Swarley The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 35 Posts: 1,092	Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise GM for GM

10-01-2009, 05:58 PM	#13
warpaint The Starter Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Great State of Texas Posts: 1,022	Re: Michael peels back the curtain at Redskins Park in interview with Wise I feel good about us turning this thing around this year. It's barely week 4. My whole thing is V.Cerrato I dont know anything about him but for some reason he is the only one who hasnt been fired threw all these years. Can anyone enlighten me if able thanks.

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