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Old 06-04-2021, 04:35 PM   #526
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^ I hear ya, that's where we're at right now, prediction season
It would be nice to come back to this next Feb and see how close it was.
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Old 06-04-2021, 10:59 PM   #527
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“It is emblematic of the mentality that is destroying America as a free republic.”

This political dog whistle hardly squares with your claim of trying to avoid politics. Nice try, though.
I didn't start it.
A different poster introduced politics out of nowhere, not me.
Nice try though.
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Old 06-04-2021, 11:03 PM   #528
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Coach Killer: Daniel Jones
Oh, my, does he tend to turn the ball over. Oh, my, do the Giants require massive gains from him. Oh, geez, how they spend on new parts for him on offense. Oh, no, I don't think it will change much at all. And if this goes as poorly as expected, then heads will roll because of it, especially as other NFL teams continue to add young cheap quarterbacks in the interim who far out-produce this one.

Josh Rosen Award: Sam Darnold
My, these two might always be linked together in one way, shape or form. Rosen's star has greatly faded, with the returns on the trades for him dropping significantly by the year. And, gulp, when David Tepper decides by 2022 (or, gulp, by November) that Darnold ain't close to the answer for all that ails them at the QB spot, well, good luck getting more than a mid-round pick in return. That is where I think this is heading, and this very well could be a declining asset


These 2 outcomes are very possible.
They also predict Davis as D rookie of year. Hope so! Seems to be bias towards pass rushers such awards, just as bias towards QBs in offensive awards.
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Old 06-05-2021, 10:58 AM   #529
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Hard to believe it took this long to accomplish this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp
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Old 06-06-2021, 03:30 AM   #530
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Hard to believe it took this long to accomplish this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp
The problem is that the science is emphatic. Mean Black IQ is about 1.1 standard deviations below the Caucasian mean. This is measure of central tendency for aggregates, not specific individuals, and everyone deserves equal civil rights regardless of IQ. Given that IQ scaling has an overall mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, this means (no lame pun intended) that mean Black IQ is about 83. Mean Caucasian IQ is 100, Asian about 105-107 (variation in different countries). This data reflects innate genetic differences in IQ of different races. I don't like these results, but they are hard science, which the liberal demonization like cultural bias cannot explain (tests have been given in every nation on Earth for over a century with same results EVERY time).

Science can be a harsh mistress. You don't always like the results. In this case, there isn't some big bad racist conspiracy, but rather a scientific attempt to help determine the cognitive decline players suffer from playing in the NFL. Without adjusting for race differences in IQ, this is impossible. When you assume higher IQs than actually exist for Blacks, to satisfy a pre-existing political philosophy, thereby ignoring basic science, you prevent identification of cognitive harm to black players. On the one hand, you don't want any NFL player not to receive help for the obvious and scientifically documented brain injury the sport causes, on the other hand, maybe people who ignore such obvious science, acting like 16th century mystics, deserve what they ask for. . .
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Old 06-06-2021, 10:48 AM   #531
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Aw shit here we go.
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Old 06-06-2021, 12:11 PM   #532
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The problem is that the science is emphatic. Mean Black IQ is about 1.1 standard deviations below the Caucasian mean. This is measure of central tendency for aggregates, not specific individuals, and everyone deserves equal civil rights regardless of IQ. Given that IQ scaling has an overall mean of 100 and a standard deviation of 15, this means (no lame pun intended) that mean Black IQ is about 83. Mean Caucasian IQ is 100, Asian about 105-107 (variation in different countries). This data reflects innate genetic differences in IQ of different races. I don't like these results, but they are hard science, which the liberal demonization like cultural bias cannot explain (tests have been given in every nation on Earth for over a century with same results EVERY time).

Science can be a harsh mistress. You don't always like the results. In this case, there isn't some big bad racist conspiracy, but rather a scientific attempt to help determine the cognitive decline players suffer from playing in the NFL. Without adjusting for race differences in IQ, this is impossible. When you assume higher IQs than actually exist for Blacks, to satisfy a pre-existing political philosophy, thereby ignoring basic science, you prevent identification of cognitive harm to black players. On the one hand, you don't want any NFL player not to receive help for the obvious and scientifically documented brain injury the sport causes, on the other hand, maybe people who ignore such obvious science, acting like 16th century mystics, deserve what they ask for. . .
Dude just no. No no no

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Old 06-06-2021, 12:28 PM   #533
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Hard to believe it took this long to accomplish this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esp...3fplatform=amp
To be honest I’ve never heard of the practice until this past week, but obviously this isn’t right.
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Old 06-06-2021, 12:59 PM   #534
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Julio traded to Titans…pending per ESPN. Wow
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Julio traded to Titans…pending per ESPN. Wow

For a 2nd a 4th.

Like it for both.
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Chico , this question is to you, how is that Haskins guy working out for you?

It's very possible that Haskins will have been the better pick. If the Giants give Danny a big 2nd contract and he continues to be terrible, the Redskins will have been better off drafting a bum that they never paid any real money.
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Julio traded to Titans…pending per ESPN. Wow
Nice boost to the Titans offense but they still have a weak defense so I am not sure if Jones will help them win more games.
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Nice boost to the Titans offense but they still have a weak defense so I am not sure if Jones will help them win more games.
Yeah I was really surprised how their defense seem to take a step back last year. But added Julio with the prime years of brown, tannehill and the best RB in the league makes a lot of sense.
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It's very possible that Haskins will have been the better pick. If the Giants give Danny a big 2nd contract and he continues to be terrible, the Redskins will have been better off drafting a bum that they never paid any real money.
Jones that year is in some ways like Jones this year, much less athletic prospect with much less upside. Haskins has some elite athletic traits, Jones had none.

Tough to determine which player is more of a waste from a long-term perspective, FitzAverage or Jones. Certainly Fitz, as we didn't waste a top-10 pick on him.
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To be honest I’ve never heard of the practice until this past week, but obviously this isn’t right.
Neurologists aren't Klansmen. You have to accurately measure cognitive decline to help people. Doing so without taking racial variations in IQ into account is impossible. If mean Black IQ is 83, but we assume it is 100, and then measure it as 83 or anything close, then EVERY African American qualifies for the monetary compensation. This is of course the whole point of the absurdity. You might argue every player should qualify, and I would agree, but that was not the settlement as negotiated. You can bet your ass that the blacks paid money won't use the bogus non-normed cognitive data when receiving treatment from neurologists.

I don't ever make political posts first, but I will not stand mute while reverse racism is dressed in the sheep's clothing of equality. The superficial appearance of things PR wise often differs dramatically from science.
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