QB Apocalypse: The Seventh Sign

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Mayock: Luck is great, but not a “once in a lifetime” prospect | ProFootballTalk

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

Moon and mcnabb were pretty dang good as was mcnair. I'd say cam was worth the 1st pick but I think he's better than RGIII

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Well what exactly has he done in the NFL? 0 playoff wins...

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.



1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

Ah yes, who can forget the great Paton Tanning. Seems like no one really talks about him anymore.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

atty MIce is no Paton Tanning.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

atty MIce is no Paton Tanning.

Point being don't be so quick to declare him a failure. If he was 30 something and still hadn't won a playoff game after multiple trips to the postseason then fine you would have a point but given he's in year 4, well it's like celebrating after ending the first quarter with a lead.

Also lets review who defeated Matt Ryan in the playoffs over the course of these last 4 years.

2011: Giants - Super Bowl Champs
2010: Packers - Super Bowl Champs
2008: Cardinals - Super Bowl Representative for the NFC

It's not like he's loosing to teams that are loosing a week later.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

I seem to remember complaints like that about another prominent QB early in his career. I forget his name though. It was like Paton Tanning or something like that. Took him like 5 games before he got a win in the postseason.

1999 (0-1), 2000 (0-1), 2002 (0-1), 2003 (2-1), 2004 (1-1), 2005 (0-1), 2006 (4-0), 2007 (0-1), 2008 (0-1), 2009 (2-1), 2010 (0-1)

He's a choker in the playoffs. Took a colossal collapse by the Pats for him to get to his first super bowl.

He's no John Grady that's for sure.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

Hall of Famer

Record-setting Rookie of the Year

Also:

McNair was a perennial playoff QB who was within 1 yard of being a SB Champion.

Cunningham led the 2nd most prolific offense in NFL history (1998 Vikings)

McNabb is probably going to the HOF at some point.....blah

[los panda]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Hall of Famer

Record-setting Rookie of the Year

Also:

McNair was a perennial playoff QB who was with 1 yard of being a SB Champion.

Cunningham led the 2nd most prolific offense in NFL history (1998 Vikings)

McNabb is probably going to the HOF at some point.....blah

don't forget that culpepper once threw it 82 yards with no pads on

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Mayock is so far up RGIII back side anyone else is just a turd.

News flash RGIII is not a once in a life time prospect either.

Vick
Cunningham
McNair
McNabb
Moon
Culpepper
Newton

What a curious list.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What a curious list.

Funny how Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, Tim Tebow were left off...if the point was to show mobile QB's.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Funny how Steve Young, Fran Tarkenton, Tim Tebow were left off...if the point was to show mobile QB's.

I was thinking the same thing.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Point being don't be so quick to declare him a failure. If he was 30 something and still hadn't won a playoff game after multiple trips to the postseason then fine you would have a point but given he's in year 4, well it's like celebrating after ending the first quarter with a lead.

Also lets review who defeated Matt Ryan in the playoffs over the course of these last 4 years.

2011: Giants - Super Bowl Champs
2010: Packers - Super Bowl Champs
2008: Cardinals - Super Bowl Representative for the NFC

It's not like he's loosing to teams that are loosing a week later.

Did I strike a nerve Matt Ryan's mom?!

1. Don't put words in my mouth, I did not call him a failure. I simply asked what has he done in the playoffs? Nothing so far.
2. Loosing is most likely a form of loosening which means to decrease constrictions of something that is tight. Losing would be the correct word used to determine something that has not won.
3. In order to be the best you have to beat the best. All the teams in the playoffs are good, that's why they are there in the first place. Just because those teams went deep into the playoffs means you can say, "It's okay Matt Ryan, you are off the hook. You could have been fine if you just hadn't played that Super Bowl winner in the first round."? No.

[skinsfaninok]

Matt Ryan Stats - Atlanta Falcons - ESPN

Ryan has 94 Tds to 45 Ints

Great home record and career 90 Passer rating and hes a bust?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Matt Ryan Stats - Atlanta Falcons - ESPN

Ryan has 94 Tds to 45 Ints

Great home record and career 90 Passer rating and hes a bust?

Who said he was a bust? Not me. I simply said what did he do in the PLAYOFFS. N-A-D-A...