The Sam Howell Thread

[SFREDSKIN]

Show me a QB with no running game and porous OL that is highly ranked. Brissett is too slow and would be worse.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Show me a QB with no running game and porous OL that is highly ranked. Brissett is too slow and would be worse.

Yes

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Show me a QB with no running game and porous OL that is highly ranked. Brissett is too slow and would be worse.

only 1 way to find out . . . Brissett has a quick release. If they are having a tough time evaluating any part of the o-line and believe too much is on Howell . . . then switch and see what it looks like Brissett at the helm. At some point you have to find out how much is on Howell. I know in that last game the first 2 sacks were 100% on Howell. Then it looked like the line gave up trying. Then once they pulled Gates it looked better. Any word on possible shuffling of the o-line?

[Chief X_Phackter]

I'd rather do what some others have suggested and shake up the offensive line. Paul, Stromberg (or Larsen), Lucas instead of Charles, Gates, Wiley.

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'd rather do what some others have suggested and shake up the offense of line. Paul, Stromberg(or Larsen), Lucas instead of Charles, Gates, Wiley.

That seems like the most obvious plan, but I don't think Ron and EB can comprehend that. Ron is going to go down insisting he made the right decisions and has the right players, and all his "culture" talk about playing the best players is all bullshit.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I'd rather do what some others have suggested and shake up the offensive line. Paul, Stromberg (or Larsen), Lucas instead of Charles, Gates, Wiley.

Yep, at least try it. In Ron eyes it would having to admit he screwed up with Gates and Wiley. Stromberg or Paul are in for Charles. Gates should be next, he sucks and his tough guy antics create stupid penalties.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

After 7 weeks Howell is 24th in Passing grade in the NFL.. Not very good

Check out some of the other young QBs who were drafted higher and are now ranked lower.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Check out some of the other young QBs who were drafted higher and are now ranked lower.

And have a better OL.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

only 1 way to find out . . . Brissett has a quick release. If they are having a tough time evaluating any part of the o-line and believe too much is on Howell . . . then switch and see what it looks like Brissett at the helm. At some point you have to find out how much is on Howell. I know in that last game the first 2 sacks were 100% on Howell. Then it looked like the line gave up trying. Then once they pulled Gates it looked better. Any word on possible shuffling of the o-line?

We're going down this season no matter who plays QB. I grant you that Brissett might be the answer to the question "How can we win a few more games?" but that is about it. Also, as things are going right now, Howell is due for a serious injury on the field, so we could at least preserve Sam's health by starting Brissett.

Right now, most sites that I read list Brissett as the third ranked Free Agent QB for 2024. Why not trade him and get a draft pick or two?

[SolidSnake84]

Putting in Brissett now doesn't mean you're giving up on Howell forever. But like others have pointed out, this OL might be the worst in pro football, and Howell is getting brutalized every game. 40 sacks in seven games. He's on pace to shatter the NFL record of 76 sacks, suffered by David Carr in 2002. At some point, probably right now, they are running the risk of ruining his career by continuing to keep him in there.

I say shut down Howell for the rest of the season and see if anything is different for Brissett. I doubt it will be, but you are saving your potential franchise QB from injury and killing his confidence..

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Putting in Brissett now doesn't mean you're giving up on Howell forever. But like others have pointed out, this OL might be the worst in pro football, and Howell is getting brutalized every game. 40 sacks in seven games. He's on pace to shatter the NFL record of 76 sacks, suffered by David Carr in 2002. At some point, probably right now, they are running the risk of ruining his career by continuing to keep him in there.

I say shut down Howell for the rest of the season and see if anything is different for Brissett. I doubt it will be, but you are saving your potential franchise QB from injury and killing his confidence..

I say reshuffle the line, it’s only been 7 games to give up on the season.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I say reshuffle the line, it’s only been 7 games to give up on the season.

For the fans it's been 23 years and 7 games. Sometimes it's hard to take anymore of this crap for another minute.

But, yes, reshuffle the OL and somebody tell JDR that's it's OK to blitz and to disguise his coverages.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

For the fans it's been 23 years and 7 games. Sometimes it's hard to take anymore of this crap for another minute.

But, yes, reshuffle the OL and somebody tell JDR that's it's OK to blitz and to disguise his coverages.

I’ve been a loyal fan since 1971 and it will not change. I’ve seen enough shit through the years, Howell needs help in the OL and play calling, not benching.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I’ve been a loyal fan since 1971 and it will not change. I’ve seen enough shit through the years, Howell needs help in the OL and play calling, not benching.

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[irish]

An interesting article on Howell. Sacks have been a problem for him since he was in college.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...l-sacks-stats/