The Haskins Threat

skinsfan69 · 12-10-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

You draft Chase Young period. You give Haskins a full off-season and season under the new coaching staff and see what you have. Throwing away a 15th overall pick in a year where the coach get fired and replaced with 3 yards and a cloud of dust Callahan is not a fair way to evaluate him.

This seems like the logical thing to do but a new staff is coming in here. Why would they stay loyal to a project they didn't draft? But let's say we get Young, a new staff isn't going to hand DH the job. He's going to have competition, either from a vet or a mid round pick.

CRedskinsRule · 12-10-2019, 03:00 PM

You hire a competent indwpendent GM, let him hire a HC , let him hire his OC, then let them decide what QB is this franchise's future. PERIOD

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skinsfaninok · 12-10-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

You hire a competent indwpendent GM, let him hire a HC , let him hire his OC, then let them decide what QB is this franchise's future. PERIOD

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Yeah I'm all for a new QB but that's with the right Regime and Staff in place

skinsfan69 · 12-10-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The ironic part of all this is Haskins was the one who forced Burrow out of OHST lol

I was listening to Meyer talk about this a few weeks ago. Basically he was saying that DH was just better and farther along than Burrow. Apparently Burrow was an all state basketball player so he wasn't totally focused all in on football.

Meks · 12-10-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

This seems like the logical thing to do but a new staff is coming in here. Why would they stay loyal to a project they didn't draft? But let's say we get Young, a new staff isn't going to hand DH the job. He's going to have competition, either from a vet or a mid round pick.

which is fair

skinsfaninok · 12-10-2019, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I was listening to Meyer talk about this a few weeks ago. Basically he was saying that DH was just better and farther along than Burrow. Apparently Burrow was an all state basketball player so he wasn't totally focused all in on football.

Meyer speaks very highly of DH all the time, said he's "the best QB I've coached"

Buffalo Bob · 12-10-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Meyer speaks very highly of DH all the time, said he's "the best QB I've coached"

I guess Meyer doesn't rate fundamentals very high.

skinsfaninok · 12-10-2019, 03:58 PM

Going through Dwayne's pass chart so far this season on throws 10+ Yards or more he is pretty bad.

He's 23/58 (39%) for 413 yards

1TD 6 INTS.

Passes 10 Yards or less :

65/91 (59%) for 558 yards

2TDs 1 INT

The downfield passing has got to get better for him or else he won't last long

CRedskinsRule · 12-10-2019, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Going through Dwayne's pass chart so far this season on throws 10+ Yards or more he is pretty bad.

He's 23/58 (39%) for 413 yards

1TD 6 INTS.

Passes 10 Yards or less :

65/91 (59%) for 558 yards

2TDs 1 INT

The downfield passing has got to get better for him or else he won't last long

How does it change if you take out his first two fill in appearances? I think most of his INTs came early on.

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skinsfaninok · 12-10-2019, 04:41 PM

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How does it change if you take out his first two fill in appearances? I think most of his INTs came early on.

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No doubt, he has gotten better the past few weeks up until Sunday that is

MTK · 12-10-2019, 06:42 PM

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Not good

I wonder what it would look like just based on his starts and not including the two mop up duty games

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sdskinsfan2001 · 12-10-2019, 07:52 PM

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I wonder what it would look like just based on his starts and not including the two mop up duty games

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No way his stats go nothing but way up taking away those 2 games. He was always a project and we suck and our HC (that didn't even want him) got fired and our play calling is now from the stone ages.

I think he is making progress and definitely enough to get at least 1 more year under a real coaching staff.

skinsfaninok · 12-11-2019, 09:36 AM

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uplo...e-sack.mp4?_=2

Haskins eats sacks, on pace for 70 if he played all season...

This is part of the reason, stared down his #1 read for too long, also had one earlier where he had Guice in the flats and got sacked.

Buffalo Bob · 12-11-2019, 11:22 AM

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https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uplo...e-sack.mp4?_=2

Haskins eats sacks, on pace for 70 if he played all season...

This is part of the reason, stared down his #1 read for too long, also had one earlier where he had Guice in the flats and got sacked.

That hasn't improved at all since the first game he appeared in. He needs to learn to throw the ball away when the situation dictates it. You can't have 5 seconds to throw in the NFL like at OSU.

Schneed10 · 12-11-2019, 12:31 PM

Part of the reason he eats sacks is he doesn't move along in his read progressions quickly enough. Brees and Cousins are experts at going boom boom boom boom, they can get to the 4th target in the progression in 2 seconds.

Haskins takes 2 seconds per target (I'm making that up, but it feels that way). It's a sign he doesn't know the offense well.

Is it getting better, sure. But it's still not satisfactory. The rate at which he's improving isn't even satisfactory. I'm in the 'bust' camp.

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12-10-2019, 03:00 PM	#512
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,384	Re: The Haskins Thread You hire a competent indwpendent GM, let him hire a HC , let him hire his OC, then let them decide what QB is this franchise's future. PERIOD Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

12-10-2019, 03:58 PM	#518
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: The Haskins Threat Going through Dwayne's pass chart so far this season on throws 10+ Yards or more he is pretty bad. He's 23/58 (39%) for 413 yards 1TD 6 INTS. Passes 10 Yards or less : 65/91 (59%) for 558 yards 2TDs 1 INT The downfield passing has got to get better for him or else he won't last long __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-11-2019, 09:36 AM	#523
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: The Haskins Threat https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uplo...e-sack.mp4?_=2 Haskins eats sacks, on pace for 70 if he played all season... This is part of the reason, stared down his #1 read for too long, also had one earlier where he had Guice in the flats and got sacked. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-11-2019, 12:31 PM	#525
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: The Haskins Threat Part of the reason he eats sacks is he doesn't move along in his read progressions quickly enough. Brees and Cousins are experts at going boom boom boom boom, they can get to the 4th target in the progression in 2 seconds. Haskins takes 2 seconds per target (I'm making that up, but it feels that way). It's a sign he doesn't know the offense well. Is it getting better, sure. But it's still not satisfactory. The rate at which he's improving isn't even satisfactory. I'm in the 'bust' camp. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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