Time to clean house 1.0.

Ruhskins · 12-31-2018, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Definitely no credit for Allen regarding Cousins, not when he should have traded him once the 2nd tag went down

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Biggest mistake of this team was to not get rid of him when there was a market for a trade.

rocnrik · 12-31-2018, 12:07 AM

Yea to get nothing for Cousins then factor in what we had to give up in the Alex deal plus the 4th Rd for Ha Ha .. dang I get depressed thinking about all the drama that goes on here..the way they handled Scott whew... hard to make excuses for this owner! It’s all on him every single thing is on him !! Empty stadium shows fans are sick and if nothing is done to bring in some new highly respected football people here I would say we are doomed to become the worst in league.. my only positive is how the hell did this team win 7 games??

Ruhskins · 12-31-2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Yea to get nothing for Cousins then factor in what we had to give up in the Alex deal plus the 4th Rd for Ha Ha .. dang I get depressed thinking about all the drama that goes on here..the way they handled Scott whew... hard to make excuses for this owner! It’s all on him every single thing is on him !! Empty stadium shows fans are sick and if nothing is done to bring in some new highly respected football people here I would say we are doomed to become the worst in league.. my only positive is how the hell did this team win 7 games??

A somewhat healthy team with Alex Smith won 6 out of those 7 games.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-31-2018, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Yea to get nothing for Cousins then factor in what we had to give up in the Alex deal plus the 4th Rd for Ha Ha .. dang I get depressed thinking about all the drama that goes on here..the way they handled Scott whew... hard to make excuses for this owner! It’s all on him every single thing is on him !! Empty stadium shows fans are sick and if nothing is done to bring in some new highly respected football people here I would say we are doomed to become the worst in league.. my only positive is how the hell did this team win 7 games??

Snyder had nothing to do with the Scot situation. That was all Jay and the Prince of Darkness.

The trade for HaHa was good at the time - we looked to be a contender. There’s really not much difference in picks rounds 4-7, so it won’t hurt us that badly.

Also, the team won 6 of those 7 games because Alex smith played unimpressive but mistake free football.

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rocnrik · 12-31-2018, 12:22 AM

Yep .. I guess the injuries will be the reason they keep jay..maybe you are right but it’s hard for me to believe that Snyder doesn’t control all the moves..

Ruhskins · 12-31-2018, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Yep .. I guess the injuries will be the reason they keep jay..maybe you are right but it’s hard for me to believe that Snyder doesn’t control all the moves..

I'd be okay with keeping Jay ONLY if Bruce is gone completely from the team. Although, two of my biggest issues with Jay is letting loyalty to players get in a the way of meritocracy and/or common sense (Luvao, Mo Harris, Marshall) and his selection of the last two Def Coordinators. Although with the latter, I'd be willing to give him a chance sans Bruce.

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Snyder had nothing to do with the Scot situation. That was all Jay and the Prince of Darkness.

The trade for HaHa was good at the time - we looked to be a contender. There’s really not much difference in picks rounds 4-7, so it won’t hurt us that badly.

Also, the team won 6 of those 7 games because Alex smith played unimpressive but mistake free football.

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I know nothing backs me up on this, but I'm still convinced that part of Scot's outing had to do with Jay.

Irrefutable · 12-31-2018, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

Yep .. I guess the injuries will be the reason they keep jay..maybe you are right but it’s hard for me to believe that Snyder doesn’t control all the moves..

There has to be a reason two years in a row they had 24+ players injured....conditioning, training, practice....per B Mitch it is not just bad luck

Ruhskins · 12-31-2018, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Irrefutable

There has to be a reason two years in a row they had 24+ players injured....conditioning, training, practice....per B Mitch it is not just bad luck

I keep hearing about how Callahan's practices with the o-line are too intense. But no one has made anything out of it.

skinsfan69 · 12-31-2018, 12:52 AM

Gruden is delusional. He said that " we can play with anyone when healthy." WTF is he talking about? You got blown out by the Saints, you got blown out by an average Falcons team and were not competitive against the Colts. You had your starting QB in those games and your defense intact.

BigHairedAristocrat · 12-31-2018, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'd be okay with keeping Jay ONLY if Bruce is gone completely from the team. Although, two of my biggest issues with Jay is letting loyalty to players get in a the way of meritocracy and/or common sense (Luvao, Mo Harris, Marshall) and his selection of the last two Def Coordinators. Although with the latter, I'd be willing to give him a chance sans Bruce.

I know nothing backs me up on this, but I'm still convinced that part of Scot's outing had to do with Jay.

It was mostly jay. They didn’t get along and jay wanted more power over player personnel. Scots regularly being drunk on the job was a nice excuse.

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htownskinfan · 12-31-2018, 08:33 AM

Well it’s Monday and no one has been fired,if no ones been fired by now after that shit show yesterday than no ones getting fired,what a terrible time to be a skins fan,it’s just sad

mooby · 12-31-2018, 08:58 AM

Don't nut just yet Htown, Black Monday is an all-day affair.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-31-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Gruden is delusional. He said that " we can play with anyone when healthy." WTF is he talking about? You got blown out by the Saints, you got blown out by an average Falcons team and were not competitive against the Colts. You had your starting QB in those games and your defense intact.

They were also getting housed by Houston thanks to AS throwing the ball towide opendefenders.

rickmmrr · 12-31-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Move Bruce to business ops, fire Manusky and bring in Todd Bowlens, possibly promote Kyle Smith to GM? It's a start.

sounds good.

Schneed10 · 12-31-2018, 09:28 AM

We are not doomed to become the worst in the league, but we’re doomed to worse. We will have everyone healthy going into next season except for Alex, which will give Allen Gruden Snyder and even us some hope. But we will have no strategic direction, no plan to get better, and we’ll end up 8-8 or so again.

The problem isn’t that we’re headed to 3-13. The problem is our ceiling is 9-7.

12-31-2018, 12:07 AM	#512
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,683	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. Yea to get nothing for Cousins then factor in what we had to give up in the Alex deal plus the 4th Rd for Ha Ha .. dang I get depressed thinking about all the drama that goes on here..the way they handled Scott whew... hard to make excuses for this owner! It’s all on him every single thing is on him !! Empty stadium shows fans are sick and if nothing is done to bring in some new highly respected football people here I would say we are doomed to become the worst in league.. my only positive is how the hell did this team win 7 games??

12-31-2018, 12:22 AM	#515
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,683	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. Yep .. I guess the injuries will be the reason they keep jay..maybe you are right but it’s hard for me to believe that Snyder doesn’t control all the moves..

12-31-2018, 12:52 AM	#519
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. Gruden is delusional. He said that " we can play with anyone when healthy." WTF is he talking about? You got blown out by the Saints, you got blown out by an average Falcons team and were not competitive against the Colts. You had your starting QB in those games and your defense intact.

12-31-2018, 08:33 AM	#521
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 62 Posts: 4,906	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. Well it’s Monday and no one has been fired,if no ones been fired by now after that shit show yesterday than no ones getting fired,what a terrible time to be a skins fan,it’s just sad __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

12-31-2018, 08:58 AM	#522
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. Don't nut just yet Htown, Black Monday is an all-day affair.

12-31-2018, 09:28 AM	#525
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Time to clean house 1.0. We are not doomed to become the worst in the league, but we’re doomed to worse. We will have everyone healthy going into next season except for Alex, which will give Allen Gruden Snyder and even us some hope. But we will have no strategic direction, no plan to get better, and we’ll end up 8-8 or so again. The problem isn’t that we’re headed to 3-13. The problem is our ceiling is 9-7. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

Time to clean house 1.0.

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