Campbell's numbers dont lie

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

every week we hear on here why we shouldn't worry

gets old after 18 years

I get excited for every game but damn

I think we hear plenty of worrying, you reading the same board I am??

[tryfuhl]

and we're criticizing sanchez heh

[dmvskinzfan08]

Sanchez looked horrible today. 3 ints. Fumble for TD. Like I said good defense and running game. When he doesn't have that he is not that good -- when he has to win the game for them...eh em

Orton is playing good tho. But still not a pro bowler.

*Brandon Marshall = Beast

Romo sucks. Skins and Dallas both 2-2.

[MTK]

Why not we criticize JC every week, seems fair enough to me

[saden1]

Broncos about to bust a nut on the Cowboys.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think we hear plenty of worrying, you reading the same board I am??

yeah but i see threads close and 20 don't worry about it threads pop up lol

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

Sanchez looked horrible today. 3 ints. Fumble for TD. Like I said good defense and running game. When he doesn't have that he is not that good -- when he has to win the game for them...eh em

Orton is playing good tho. But still not a pro bowler.

*Brandon Marshall = Beast

Romo sucks. Skins and Dallas both 2-2.

rookie, it happens

watch him play, guy can make good reads, it's just a matter of time for him to settle in

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

yeah but i see threads close and 20 don't worry about it threads pop up lol

Proof that perception does not always = reality

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One bad half, one good half. I'm calling it a wash. More importantly, we won.

I think people really need to stop over analyzing the QB play.

No, two bad halves and one throw to Moss after he beat his man on a double move. He was not seeing the field at all. I have no idea what was happening downfield without the All-22, but it is obvious that the guy is not making quick decisions, has no timing to his game, and is unable to get a clear picture of the defenses he is seeing. That Tampa team was the worst pass defense in the NFL coming into this game. It is also a complete fallacy to think that this was the first poor game that Campbell has had this year. He has had these problems seeing the field all year, it just showed up more blatantly in the stat line today.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

No, two bad halves and one throw to Moss after he beat his man on a double move. He was not seeing the field at all. I have no idea what was happening downfield without the All-22, but it is obvious that the guy is not making quick decisions, has no timing to his game, and is unable to get a clear picture of the defenses he is seeing. That Tampa team was the worst pass defense in the NFL coming into this game. It is also a complete fallacy to think that this was the first poor game that Campbell has had this year. He has had these problems seeing the field all year, it just showed up more blatantly in the stat line today.

So you're completely disregarding the 10 play drive ending with the Cooley TD, right?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

and we're criticizing sanchez heh

Yeah because some people think he is solely responsible for when the Jets are winning. But when he its is his sole responsibility in leading his team to win like today. He loses. Great D and running game helps him to look good. Today you saw what happened. Will be a good QB but people on here hype him too much.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

No, two bad halves and one throw to Moss after he beat his man on a double move. He was not seeing the field at all. I have no idea what was happening downfield without the All-22, but it is obvious that the guy is not making quick decisions, has no timing to his game, and is unable to get a clear picture of the defenses he is seeing. That Tampa team was the worst pass defense in the NFL coming into this game. It is also a complete fallacy to think that this was the first poor game that Campbell has had this year. He has had these problems seeing the field all year, it just showed up more blatantly in the stat line today.

Do you think Todd Collins is the answer?

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're completely disregarding the 10 play drive ending with the Cooley TD, right?

Might as well give up Ruhskins. Misery loves company!! So this guy is saying Campbell had only one good pass? Not saying he played great today. But some people want something to complain about but rarely give any credit when credit is due. Just bitch bitch bitch. But some are correct in saying that this is what a forum board is for and it would be boring without the whining. But you have to at least point out the good things when they happen. We know JC threw 3 ints. But Portis played better and the Defense played better and we scored 2 TD's (not in garbage time -- because those dont count by some peoples standards). Oh and guess what...


WE WON

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're completely disregarding the 10 play drive ending with the Cooley TD, right?

You mean this drive?

1-10-WAS 31 (8:56) 26-C.Portis left end pushed ob at WAS 39 for 8 yards (51-B.Ruud).

2-2-WAS 39 (8:32) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 47-C.Cooley to TB 44 for 17 yards (54-G.Hayes). Tight end screen. Hmm, wonder if Campbell's struggles led the team to change the playcalling to protect their QB. No need to read the defense, pass is preset.

1-10-TB 44 (7:54) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 42 for 2 yards (90-G.Adams).

2-8-TB 42 (7:20) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 40 for 2 yards (96-T.Crowder).

3-6-TB 40 (6:37) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 46-L.Betts to TB 36 for 4 yards (97-J.Wilkerson, 51-B.Ruud). Check down to Ladell Betts. Picked up the first down here, but you still are not convincing me that he is a great quarterback. He flushed himself here too if I remember, so again no timing or rhythm.

Timeout #1 by WAS at 06:10.

4-2-TB 36 (6:10) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to TB 24 for 12 yards (25-A.Talib). Nice play to get open by Cooley. Again Campbell had to float right, but it did give Cooley a chance to slide to the open space.

1-10-TB 24 (5:32) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 47-C.Cooley (20-R.Barber).

2-10-TB 24 (5:27) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 86-F.Davis to TB 25 for -1 yards (58-Q.Black). Another tight end screen. I have trouble believing the play calling was not trying to compensate for Campbell's issues processing information. And I am sick of Zorn too, so it is not like I am trying to defend that guy either.

3-11-TB 25 (4:47) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell scrambles right end to TB 12 for 13 yards (58-Q.Black). QB's that don't get a clear picture often scramble. Case in point.

1-10-TB 12 (4:02) PENALTY on WAS-89-S.Moss, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 12 - No Play.

1-15-TB 17 (3:38) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 47-C.Cooley for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. I can't remember precisely how this play developed, but I am fairly sure that it was not a play that Campbell made on rhythm. I think he flushed left before he made the throw. Again, he has trouble diagnosing defenses and anticipating routes. Here again, I am willing to bet that when I watch again he was able to throw to an open receiver, but unable to anticipate that player coming open.

Did you see him make any quick decisions and process information quickly all day? I haven't rewatched yet, but I don't remember seeing it. You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

You mean this drive?

1-10-WAS 31 (8:56) 26-C.Portis left end pushed ob at WAS 39 for 8 yards (51-B.Ruud).

2-2-WAS 39 (8:32) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 47-C.Cooley to TB 44 for 17 yards (54-G.Hayes). Tight end screen. Hmm, wonder if Campbell's struggles led the team to change the playcalling to protect their QB. No need to read the defense, pass is preset.

1-10-TB 44 (7:54) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 42 for 2 yards (90-G.Adams).

2-8-TB 42 (7:20) 26-C.Portis up the middle to TB 40 for 2 yards (96-T.Crowder).

3-6-TB 40 (6:37) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 46-L.Betts to TB 36 for 4 yards (97-J.Wilkerson, 51-B.Ruud). Check down to Ladell Betts. Picked up the first down here, but you still are not convincing me that he is a great quarterback. He flushed himself here too if I remember, so again no timing or rhythm.

Timeout #1 by WAS at 06:10.

4-2-TB 36 (6:10) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to TB 24 for 12 yards (25-A.Talib). Nice play to get open by Cooley. Again Campbell had to float right, but it did give Cooley a chance to slide to the open space.

1-10-TB 24 (5:32) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete deep left to 47-C.Cooley (20-R.Barber).

2-10-TB 24 (5:27) 17-J.Campbell pass short right to 86-F.Davis to TB 25 for -1 yards (58-Q.Black). Another tight end screen. I have trouble believing the play calling was not trying to compensate for Campbell's issues processing information. And I am sick of Zorn too, so it is not like I am trying to defend that guy either.

3-11-TB 25 (4:47) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell scrambles right end to TB 12 for 13 yards (58-Q.Black). QB's that don't get a clear picture often scramble. Case in point.

1-10-TB 12 (4:02) PENALTY on WAS-89-S.Moss, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TB 12 - No Play.

1-15-TB 17 (3:38) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass deep middle to 47-C.Cooley for 17 yards, TOUCHDOWN. I can't remember precisely how this play developed, but I am fairly sure that it was not a play that Campbell made on rhythm. I think he flushed left before he made the throw. Again, he has trouble diagnosing defenses and anticipating routes. Here again, I am willing to bet that when I watch again he was able to throw to an open receiver, but unable to anticipate that player coming open.

Did you see him make any quick decisions and process information quickly all day? I haven't rewatched yet, but I don't remember seeing it. You're clearly content to go down with the HMS Campbell, nothing that happens will change your opinion, but I've seen enough.

Is this guy seriously using a successful drive to point out how unsuccessful we were on this drive..