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Old 03-19-2018, 10:24 PM   #436
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Ugh. I'm starting to get annoyed now. I'd rather have used Scandricks money to add some sugar on top of Hankins deal. Way easier to draft slot cornerback and let him battle out with Holsey than to find a big ole hog-molly like Hankins. Frustrating.
Agreed.
If we end up sign Hankins we'll probably forget about it, but if we don't, I'll hate th is signing, would have preferred to find a slot/depth CB in the draft!

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Old 03-20-2018, 06:40 AM   #437
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Re: Redskins free agent signings 2018

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/

Wow, the Skins are doing a great job with contracts: Zach Brown's 2018 cap hit is... 2,7M ! Richardson's is 4M!

Before Scandrick's deal we have 21M available, minus rookie pool (~4M), that's 17M.

So we still have at the very least 13M...

That is really smart... if you use it to sign Hankins! Pay him!
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:26 AM   #438
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Washington Redskins 2018 Salary Cap Table | Spotrac

Wow, the Skins are doing a great job with contracts: Zach Brown's 2018 cap hit is... 2,7M ! Richardson's is 4M!

Before Scandrick's deal we have 21M available, minus rookie pool (~4M), that's 17M.

So we still have at the very least 13M...

That is really smart... if you use it to sign Hankins! Pay him!
Edit: I'm an idiot (not that this is news to anyone). Schneed does some amazing work in the cap thread.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:08 AM   #439
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I'm not concerned about the Scandrick signing at all. That's because the Skins have earned my trust when it comes to building the secondary. The Skins have done an excellent job of identifying players for the secondary and then signing them as FA's, or drafting them. They know what they're getting with Scandrick and they will use him in a way that plays to his strengths as a player. We also have an outstanding DB coach, IMO.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:21 AM   #440
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I'm not concerned about the Scandrick signing at all. That's because the Skins have earned my trust when it comes to building the secondary. The Skins have done an excellent job of identifying players for the secondary and then signing them as FA's, or drafting them. They know what they're getting with Scandrick and they will use him in a way that plays to his strengths as a player. We also have an outstanding DB coach, IMO.
Good point. I am still curious about Scandrick's contract details but you are right about FO making good moves lately and I suppose we should trust them on this move.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:32 AM   #441
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Defensive lineman Terrell McClain's base salary of $3.25 million was set to become fully guaranteed on the fifth day of the league year, but the language of his contract was changed to keep it as guaranteed for injury only. That means if the Redskins

I was wondering why McClain hasn't been cut by the 5th day of league year.

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Old 03-20-2018, 09:34 AM   #442
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Concerning Hankins, it seems to me that we have criticized the FO for years because they had no plan. That criticism was fair because they actually didn't have a plan. Now, I think we may be unintentionally criticizing this FO for having a plan and sticking to it because they didn't pay Hankins whatever he wanted to come here. That isn't fair criticism, IMHO.

We don't know what happened in the negotiations with Hankins. The Skins may have made him a more than fair offer within the parameters of their overall plan. Right now, Hankins may want to look around to see if he can get a better offer. There's no telling if he'll find a better offer or if the Skins might sweeten the pot a little to get the deal done. Either way, I support the FO for having a plan and working it.
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I'm not concerned about the Scandrick signing at all. That's because the Skins have earned my trust when it comes to building the secondary. The Skins have done an excellent job of identifying players for the secondary and then signing them as FA's, or drafting them. They know what they're getting with Scandrick and they will use him in a way that plays to his strengths as a player. We also have an outstanding DB coach, IMO.
Agreed... but we did sign Donte Whiffner pretty recently...

The reason I'm not too concerned is we still have enough cap space to make a real impact full signing.
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I love this new process, don't be in a rush to sign every player that comes to town, back in the day all we heard was how Dan and Co. had their guy in and won't let him leave w/out a deal. We are looking more like the Steelers or Packers this O/S.
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Old 03-20-2018, 09:42 AM   #445
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Agreed... but we did sign Donte Whiffner pretty recently...

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If Scandrick doesn't work out, I expect one of our Young Guns to step up. Scandrick may have been signed to hold down the slot corner position until one of the younger players is ready.
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I'm not concerned about the Scandrick signing at all. That's because the Skins have earned my trust when it comes to building the secondary. The Skins have done an excellent job of identifying players for the secondary and then signing them as FA's, or drafting them. They know what they're getting with Scandrick and they will use him in a way that plays to his strengths as a player. We also have an outstanding DB coach, IMO.
The difference from 2 years ago to last year was inspiring. He took a fractured group, and even with injuries across the board, built a consistent defensive backfield. That's a good point as it relates to Scandrick, and I hadn't really considered it. Thanks for reminding us
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Concerning Hankins, it seems to me that we have criticized the FO for years because they had no plan. That criticism was fair because they actually didn't have a plan. Now, I think we may be unintentionally criticizing this FO for having a plan and sticking to it because they didn't pay Hankins whatever he wanted to come here. That isn't fair criticism, IMHO.

We don't know what happened in the negotiations with Hankins. The Skins may have made him a more than fair offer within the parameters of their overall plan. Right now, Hankins may want to look around to see if he can get a better offer. There's no telling if he'll find a better offer or if the Skins might sweeten the pot a little to get the deal done. Either way, I support the FO for having a plan and working it.
Also good points. I also think that part of their plan includes a DT in the first two rounds of the draft. Assuming they do that, it puts less urgency in the signing of Hankins.
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Also good points. I also think that part of their plan includes a DT in the first two rounds of the draft. Assuming they do that, it puts less urgency in the signing of Hankins.
I sure hope so, even if they sign Hankins. By adding Hankins and a top-notch rookie DL we could have a bad-ass D-Line rotation.
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I really, really want Johnathan Hankins. I am Googling "Redskins Hankins" just about every 10 minutes hoping for news.

But that said, the fact that Hankins left to ponder his options is a good thing. It's a sign that the Redskins aren't coming at free agents with offers that blow away the market, causing them to take the deal on the spot.

That was the model in the 2000s and it resulted in some horrendous overpayments and we all know the history.

I happen to think that if you see guys sign during their free agent visit, it's probably not a good sign. The fact that Scandrick signed yesterday during the visit was a sign of overpayment - his offer was so good that he said 'know what it's not even worth taking other visits.' And now that we all see it's 2 years and $10M, we're all scratching our heads a bit.

Remember, DeSean Jackson left Redskins Park after his visit. But he signed with us (and the price was right). We should hope for that with Hankins. Just because he left doesn't mean we're not still the best offer.

If Hankins gets away from us, that will cheese me for sure because we really NEED his skill set. But I can't fault Bruce Allen for making offers in line with the market. We'll see if he lets this fish get away - paying a little more than market value would be worth it in this case, because our need is so much bigger than most teams.

If he takes another visit, if I'm Bruce I'm bringing my last best and final offer right then and there over the phone.
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Concerning Hankins, it seems to me that we have criticized the FO for years because they had no plan. That criticism was fair because they actually didn't have a plan. Now, I think we may be unintentionally criticizing this FO for having a plan and sticking to it because they didn't pay Hankins whatever he wanted to come here. That isn't fair criticism, IMHO.

We don't know what happened in the negotiations with Hankins. The Skins may have made him a more than fair offer within the parameters of their overall plan. Right now, Hankins may want to look around to see if he can get a better offer. There's no telling if he'll find a better offer or if the Skins might sweeten the pot a little to get the deal done. Either way, I support the FO for having a plan and working it.
Actually, I haven't lost hope we sign Hankins.
He's freshly released, we can assume his agent may have told him not to sign the first offer made and wait to see if there's a market for him.
Marketwise I like the fact that neither Poe nor Richardson signed crazy deals and Logan hasn't signed anything yet.

I still think Hankins can end up here.
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