Giants Pregame Thread

skinsfan69 · 12-19-2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

While it's good to see Anderson starting to contribute more on the field, our current defense coaches have shown that they are not able to coach players properly. So at this point, I'm willing to give most defense players including Anderson another chance with new defense coaches.

I would go as far to say that Payne and Allen are being used the wrong way. Allen isn't a 3-4 DE. That is not his best position at all and it's stupid to ever put him at the position. He should be a 4-3 one gap attacking DT. Also Payne should never be used as a 3-4 NT. He's not a Casey Hampton type that is suppose to take on a center and a guard and eat up blocks. Both of those guys should be in positions to attack more and be disruptive. Holcomb should be a sideline to sideline MLB so he is able to use his speed more.

Chico23231 · 12-19-2019, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would go as far to say that Payne and Allen are being used the wrong way. Allen isn't a 3-4 DE. That is not his best position at all and it's stupid to ever put him at the position. He should be a 4-3 one gap attacking DT. Also Payne should never be used as a 3-4 NT. He's not a Casey Hampton type that is suppose to take on a center and a guard and eat up blocks. Both of those guys should be in positions to attack more and be disruptive. Holcomb should be a sideline to sideline MLB so he is able to use his speed more.

Cooley has mentioned this multiple times this season...the current front seven base should operate as a 4-3. Ryan Anderson and Allen would benefit the most from this look...Anderson is prototypical OLB in that set.

mooby · 12-19-2019, 08:22 PM

My god the officiating this season has been terrible.

DYoungJelly · 12-19-2019, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would go as far to say that Payne and Allen are being used the wrong way. Allen isn't a 3-4 DE. That is not his best position at all and it's stupid to ever put him at the position. He should be a 4-3 one gap attacking DT. Also Payne should never be used as a 3-4 NT. He's not a Casey Hampton type that is suppose to take on a center and a guard and eat up blocks. Both of those guys should be in positions to attack more and be disruptive. Holcomb should be a sideline to sideline MLB so he is able to use his speed more.

Any play, even one, where those dudes aren't one gapping is a waste of talent.

Any play where Kerrigan or Sweat is covering anybody is a waste. So stupid.

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FrenchSkin · 12-20-2019, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

Any play, even one, where those dudes aren't one gapping is a waste of talent.

Any play where Kerrigan or Sweat is trying to cover anybody is a waste. So stupid.

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Fixed it for you. (Not a shot at them, I just think it's absurd to ask them to).

MTK · 12-20-2019, 09:20 AM

I’m praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4

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Redskins247 · 12-20-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

A loss would get us closer to a BlueChip player that isn't available later in the first round.
This is the deference between Khalil Mack and Ryan Kerrigan or Julio Jones and Josh Doctson.
It's Young/Jeudy or bust.

This and this only. If we end up getting Young and he becomes Khalil Mack like, no one...NO ONE will be going, yeah he's great and all...but I still wish we'd have beaten the Giants in week 16 back in 2019!! However...we are the Redskins, so even we do get him, he'll probably be the next Preston Smith here...or often injured.

Ruhskins · 12-20-2019, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I’m praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4

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Meks · 12-20-2019, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I’m praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4

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the right coach with the right scheme will run a lot of different formations and packages but would also use the players to the best of their potential .... so we'd see both but with the correct people in the right places at the right times

CRedskinsRule · 12-20-2019, 01:12 PM

What a mixed emorions game. The offense clicked last week and I don't want to see a regression against a horrible Giants defense, so I want us to score a ton, but i want Manusky gone, so we need to give up a ton, preferably to Barkely on sceeen passes, not runs up the middle.

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SunnySide · 12-20-2019, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What a mixed emorions game. The offense clicked last week and I don't want to see a regression against a horrible Giants defense, so I want us to score a ton, but i want Manusky gone, so we need to give up a ton, preferably to Barkely on sceeen passes, not runs up the middle.

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I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.

FrenchSkin · 12-20-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.

Agreed, we need more losses like that one

CRedskinsRule · 12-20-2019, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

I think the Eagles game was best case scenario. Game was entertaining, competitive and even though the eagles won .. their fans couldnt feel good about their team going forward.

Well the problem is a competitive game against the Giants in their current state is a step back from competitive games against the packers and eagles. Thats why i want to see our offense light up their defense and their offense light up our defense

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DYoungJelly · 12-20-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I’m praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4

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You're always so dismissive of this discussion.

Is the roster better suited for a 3-4?

Warthog · 12-21-2019, 01:22 AM

The Eagles fans were shitting themselves until the last few minutes. There were a lot of positive parts of the offense and defense.

If the team was properly coached in the defense, especially and the offense - this team would IMMEDIATELY improve quite a lot A new GM will eliminate all the hurt and worthless FA (like Norman), which will free up a lot cap room. Some new FA, like at TE, will help the team quite a bit, but the primary emphasis must be on bringing up another excellent class of rookies, like this year.

The most important change is firing BA and bringing in elite NFL coaches and a knowledgeable GM.

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mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,446	Re: Giants Pregame Thread My god the officiating this season has been terrible.

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MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: Giants Pregame Thread I’m praying for a switch to the 4-3 so in 5 years or so we can hear about how we need to switch back to a 3-4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,381	Re: Giants Pregame Thread What a mixed emorions game. The offense clicked last week and I don't want to see a regression against a horrible Giants defense, so I want us to score a ton, but i want Manusky gone, so we need to give up a ton, preferably to Barkely on sceeen passes, not runs up the middle. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

12-21-2019, 01:22 AM	#45
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: Giants Pregame Thread The Eagles fans were shitting themselves until the last few minutes. There were a lot of positive parts of the offense and defense. If the team was properly coached in the defense, especially and the offense - this team would IMMEDIATELY improve quite a lot A new GM will eliminate all the hurt and worthless FA (like Norman), which will free up a lot cap room. Some new FA, like at TE, will help the team quite a bit, but the primary emphasis must be on bringing up another excellent class of rookies, like this year. The most important change is firing BA and bringing in elite NFL coaches and a knowledgeable GM. __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

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