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Old 08-12-2015, 08:49 PM   #31
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I am not saying he is Vince L. but I like him over Jay. Anyone ever checkout Jays past? They guy is a career UFL and Arena football coaching star. Oh wow!
And 3 years as OC in the pros
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:01 PM   #32
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DANG!
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:13 PM   #33
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I know O'Brien was highly sought after, but I just don't see it.

Yes, he went 9-7 last year, but here's who they beat:
Tennessee (twice) (2-14)
Jax (twice) (3-13)
Oak (3-13)
Us (4-12)
Cleveland (7-9)
Buffalo (9-7)
Baltimore (10-6)

So six of the wins came against teams with double digit losses and only one was against a team with double digit wins. Yes, a win is a win, but that looks like a pretty padded schedule to me.

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He may end up living to his rep, but I am unimpressed to date.
Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:36 PM   #34
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Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
That team had a lot more talent than what the 2-14 record would dictate.
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Old 08-12-2015, 11:40 PM   #35
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For one thing, many people believe O'Brien will finally be the Belichick protege who will succeed as an NFL HC

Perhaps more significantly though, how he handled being HC at Penn State following the Paterno/Sandusky mess is what really had teams intrigued about him
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:21 AM   #36
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I like seeing that stuff and who is not a Watt fan, guy is awesome.
Personally I have done a complete 180 on Watt, he sees like a boring person and he is by far over saturated right now. Same as Peyton Manning a couple years ago.
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Old 08-13-2015, 01:43 AM   #37
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From what I took away from episode one is that the Redskins have taken a step foward to being that tough physical team we hope for. In one scene Ryan Mallet said something about his team being the softest in the league. Then continuing on to say that they(Redskins) are pushing us around and drilling us into the ground. Now hey I know, the Texans aren't the toughest in the league but it shows we're taking baby steps foward!

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Old 08-13-2015, 01:50 AM   #38
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Don't leave out the part where he did this in his first year with a previously 2-14 team and without a good QB.
True. However, they still had Foster, Johnson and Watt.

And the two years prior to the collapse they were 12-4 and 10-6.

9-7 with 4 wins coming against 2 teams that five wins between them. I would bet that, in almost any other division, they would have ended with a losing record.

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From what I took away from the episode is that the Redskins have taken a step foward to being the tough physical team we hope for. In one scene Ryan Mallet said something about his team being the softest in the league. Then continuing on to say that they(Redskins) are pushing us around and drilling us into the ground. Now hey I know, the Texans aren't the toughest in the league but it shows we're taking baby steps foward!
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The episode definitely showed the Texans in a more favorable light during the joint practices (to be expected of course), doesn't really match up with reality from what I've read.
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And 3 years as OC in the pros
Again, Oh wow!
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For one thing, many people believe O'Brien will finally be the Belichick protege who will succeed as an NFL HC

Perhaps more significantly though, how he handled being HC at Penn State following the Paterno/Sandusky mess is what really had teams intrigued about him
So it's based on belief more than actual accomplishment.

I don't roll that way. Not enamored with Jay until he proves otherwise either. But I see no reason to be on Bill O'B's jock at this point.
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Again, Oh wow!

Pretty much what I say about O'Brien at this point too.
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The episode definitely showed the Texans in a more favorable light during the joint practices (to be expected of course), doesn't really match up with reality from what I've read.
You mean the shots of Watt abusing Scherff and making him look like Polumbus? And then making fun of him for being a rookie? Or Hopkins breaking Hall's ankles and giving him an injury? Hopkins comes off as a total asshole. Not a fan of that guy at all.

They did show Jones running over the Texans rookie corner, forgot his name. He's got a hot sister.
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You mean the shots of Watt abusing Scherff and making him look like Polumbus? And then making fun of him for being a rookie? Or Hopkins breaking Hall's ankles and giving him an injury? Hopkins comes off as a total asshole. Not a fan of that guy at all.

They did show Jones running over the Texans rookie corner, forgot his name. He's got a hot sister.

Watt abuses everyone, and cherry picking plays can make any team look good. They didn't show the battles that Scherrf won against him of course.
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