11-26-2013, 01:46 PM | #31 | |
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11-26-2013, 01:46 PM | #32 |
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I've said we had a "top 10" defense before Shanny and Haslett. Looked it up on nfl.com (example link):
2013(so far): #28 yds/g, #31 pts/g. 2012: #28 yds/g, #22 pts/g. 2011: #13 yds/g, #21 pts/g. 2010: #31 yds/g, #21 pts/g. ------------------------------ 2009: #23 yds/g, #18 pts/g. 2008: #4 yds/g, #6 pts/g. 2007: #8 yds/g, #11 pts/g. 2006: #31 yds/g, #27 pts/g. 2005: #9 yds/g, #9 pts/g. It's a bit rosy colored to suggest we had a sure top 10 D the past few years, but changing our D is still the worst mistake Shanny's made. How much of this blame is the switch to the 3-4, and how much is Haslett, I dunno. |
11-26-2013, 01:48 PM | #33 |
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It has to be this trade. Two number one's and a second rounder? Now the number one pick is going to be a top 3 pick. Plus the player that we traded for may not be a good fit for the NFL game. This had disaster written all over it when they made the deal. However, I would like to know if Shanahan was 100% on board with the RG3 trade.
The 3-4 also has been a mess and that's 100% on Shanahan. |
11-26-2013, 01:51 PM | #34 | |
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So who exactly should have have gotten?
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11-26-2013, 01:52 PM | #35 | |
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Add this to the list of Shanahan failures: The failure to hire quality assisstant coaches to "coach up" the players.
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11-26-2013, 02:00 PM | #36 |
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I wonder how many more people would think the RGIII trade was bad when they realize we gave up 3 first rounders and a second rounder to draft him.
I also wonder how many of the same people loved the trade last season. Full disclosure: I hated the trade when it happened, and thought getting Matt Flynn and keeping our picks was a better option. And changed my mind and loved the trade last season. So what do I know? |
11-26-2013, 02:01 PM | #37 | |
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I wouldn't say that. There were some that were neither for nor against the move all together. I loved RGIII as a prospect, but I was very cautious about giving that much up for a team that needed so much. I'll still say that even if he turns out to be a HoFer. Also, you can look at my post history and verify this as well. It's not that I didn't think RGIII wasn't worth what we gave up, but that we weren't in the shape to give up that much. Once the trade is done though, there is no sense of worrying about what was given up though. It's a gamble, one that could pay off or set us back. That is still to be determined.
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I've never seen the 3-4 as the problem, just the players and coach running it.
The legendary top 10 4-3 we had was old and lacked playmakers and needed an overhaul anyway. As far as the trade that everyone is knocking now don't forget that the cap penalty came afterwards. Gotta think that trade doesn't happen if they knew the cap hit was coming. |
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It wasn't the cost for any other franchise in history. Just this one.
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I was not happy with the hiring of haslett and the switch to the 3-4,hiring a coach who coached a 4-3 defense but had "familiarity"with 3-4 from his days coaching in pittsburgh 97-99.
And to agree with Smootsmack,the way he handled Haynesworth I thought was handled very poorly,and now with davis. The Mcnabb trade I was excited about,I thought he had something left in the tank.I'm still not sure whos fault that was that mcnabb didnt play well here.I dont think they played to Mcnabbs strengths but Mcnabb didnt do his part either,so I'll give Shan a pass on this one. I guess there might have been a few people on here at the time that thought we were giving up too much to get RG3 but I was excited as hell about it as most of us were.I dont think that was a mistake . To by far the biggest mistake was the way he handled Griff in the seattle game.I dont care if Griff wanted to stay in or not,you just gave up the farm to get him yet you put his whole career in danger by leaving him in there.A BLIND MAN COULD HAVE SEEN IT WAS TIME TO PULL GRIFFIN. To me thats unforgivable,it ended our season horribly and it screwed up this season. If griffin was healthy this yr,we probably arent leading the division,but we are def not 3-8 and a laughingstock If griff doesnt tear up his knee were not talking about whether it was a mistake to give up so much for him
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The 2011 draft was one of the better drafts for QBs. The 2010 draft was not, but there were non-first rounders who could have helped this teams situation, although that would have meant no roster spot for John Beck, so you can see the solution there.
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Ok, and tell me what he ended up signing for with the Titans and then tell me would you have signed him. Still you haven't given any options other than...."it was bad". Let's hear some options, and look at the salary ramifications on those people you would have signed. Come on GT, put some effort into it.
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The problem is that you have to take risks. The teams that don't have a franchise QB are often mired in mediocrity in a revolving door of QBs and high to mid round first draft picks. The day of the trade I was anxious and apprehensive, what I saw last year gave me hope toward a bright future and I can't say for certainty our future is any worse or better for the trade but I am willing to take risks. For me the biggest mistake is the McNabb trade that essentially cost us a year of rebuilding.
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