On the Hole(s)...

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Sorry, I was re-reading that and completely misunderstood the question.

[FRPLG]

My respect for you is lost forever!

[BossHog]

No doubt about it. One of the top three WRs (whichever ones you choose) will be available at #9. Besides TO, name another WR on the Eagles roster not wearing a clown suit. Oh yeah, PHI's five day one picks didn't even include the latest reward of compensatory picks.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I know, I'm just going to leave and never come back!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Not that I truly garnered any respect with my heavy-drinkin', alcohol fueled, St. Patrick's Day posts...

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I think if you have a top 10 pick you pick talent. If DJ fell to us at 9, I would consider them trying to pick him up. Even though we're loaded at LB he's probably the best player in the draft. That said for a team in the state we are it may be better to go WR or CB whichever is best available. Whoever we draft we shouldn't expect to make a difference right away. I say if we keep what we have we go WR, CB in 1/3 then just look for backup D/O line, blocking TE. Those are really the only holes I see. WR, CB, TE, Dline in that order. I say we stay put and get the best player we can, who might be Mike Williams/Pac Man.

I know the kid is a player but I am not a proponate of drafting LB's that early unless Lawerence Taylor is avail. especially with Williams at the helm you need athletes there but you don't need superstar's, DJ is not really an inside guy and probably moving him inside would limit his abilities some, we just signed Clemon's who probably is as fast if not faster than DJ so I wouldn't be picking a LB in the first rd, but I would be looking for a MLB later in the draft.

My draft strategy would be to trade down a few spot's if possible and draft Rolle I think he will still be avail. around 15 or so, then do what I have to do to make sure I get Vincent Jackson in the second, I still feel we need a real #1 possession type reciever and I think this kid will be it, so much so that I am willing to let William's go if he's avail. when we pick, this strategy will net us 2 player's instead of 1 and fill 2 need's and save us some much needed cap room.


Besides Daseal what would we do with big time Lavar if we drafted DJ?

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Although value wise it is close it may not be enough. I think the general rule of thumb is that to move up into the top ten the lower team has to pay a premium in terms of value. Simply looking at the value chart(which is of course not the only factor but oh well) it ends up being 1426 for us vs. 1350 for them. I think to move up we'd need to get close to 1500 in value. What the hell do I know though!?

You may have thought I said something else. I'm saying that we could trade our #9 for PHIs #31, OR #35, AND #63. That would give PHI 1350 vs our 876 (#31 and #63) or 856 (#35 and #63).

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by BossHog

You may have thought I said something else. I'm saying that we could trade our #9 for PHIs #31, OR #35, AND #63. That would give PHI 1350 vs our 876 (#31 and #63) or 856 (#35 and #63).

That'll never happen. OUr pick(valued at 1350) would need to get more than 1350 in value for us trade it is what I understand. So they'd have to give us all 3 picks to make it even close. They'd have to REALLY like someone for that.

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by offiss

... My draft strategy would be to trade down a few spot's if possible and draft Rolle I think he will still be avail. around 15 or so, then do what I have to do to make sure I get Vincent Jackson in the second, I still feel we need a real #1 possession type reciever and I think this kid will be it, so much so that I am willing to let William's go if he's avail. when we pick, this strategy will net us 2 player's instead of 1 and fill 2 need's and save us some much needed cap room.

I was with you until you threw in Jackson being picked in the second round. Why are you so fond of him? He could fall as low as the fourth round. There's a possibility SD would want to trade up (for those who believe it's not competitively logical for division rivals to trade) from 12th overall to draft a guy they really like. They also have another selection at 28th and a second rounder at #61. So it seems likely a deal would be able to be worked out if that was the case.

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

That'll never happen. OUr pick(valued at 1350) would need to get more than 1350 in value for us trade it is what I understand. So they'd have to give us all 3 picks to make it even close. They'd have to REALLY like someone for that.

Dude. Forget it.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by BossHog

I was with you until you threw in Jackson being picked in the second round. Why are you so fond of him? He could fall as low as the fourth round. There's a possibility SD would want to trade up (for those who believe it's not competitively logical for division rivals to trade) from 12th overall to draft a guy they really like. They also have another selection at 28th and a second rounder at #61. So it seems likely a deal would be able to be worked out if that was the case.

I don't see him falling to the 4th but you may be right about him in the early 2nd I just want to know we get him, the reason I like him and I know I am going out on a limb here but I think he just may be better than Williams, I saw their combines and Jackson is a better athlete than Williams, he's bigger and faster, his hand's are probably not quite as good as Williams but he does have good hand's [Williams hand's are phenomal] that's why I want him, I don't care where we draft him at so long as we get him after the 1st rd which will net us Rolle.

[BossHog]

Point taken.

[Daseal]

Offiss - DJ is probably the best athlete in the draft, if he were available I'd think about taking him, but problem is we have other gaps to fill with people that could be great too. I doubt DJ drops past MN anyways, but I believe with our wealth of LBs that he would be a waste. We could trade M Washington, but not worth it for a rookie. I agree he won't be near as good inside as outside. If we really need an MLB - if we have another losing season we could land the kid from UVA.

As far as Jackson - this is the Northern Colorodo kid? (Colorodo is a funny word) If so what kind of DBs did he go against. Not saying he couldn't be great, but I doubt he's a replacement for Mike Williams. Same thing with that Alabama QB turned WR. He's a great athelete, but I think he may ultimately WANT to be a QB kinda like that Crouch guy. Though I wouldn't be against the Northern Colorodo guy, I'd rather have Edwards or Williams by a long shot!

[BossHog]

Originally Posted by Daseal

...As far as Jackson - this is the Northern Colorodo kid? (Colorodo is a funny word) If so what kind of DBs did he go against. Not saying he couldn't be great, but I doubt he's a replacement for Mike Williams. Same thing with that Alabama QB turned WR. He's a great athelete, but I think he may ultimately WANT to be a QB kinda like that Crouch guy. Though I wouldn't be against the Northern Colorodo guy, I'd rather have Edwards or Williams by a long shot!

I'm with you here. There's a slim chance that Matt Jones and to a lesser degree, Vincent Jackson, are going to be great NFL WRs. For the most part, they won't be given much of an opportunity to prove that they 'belong'. And that's unfortunate.

[skinsWill]

did everyone here forget about troy williamson at the #9 if edwards (who im not sold on) and williams are gone. Our defense was #3 last year without arguably one of the biggest playmakers in the leauge (LaVar) i say focus on what was bad last year and that is offense pure and simple.