FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone

MTK · 03-02-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joecrisp

Could be that Pierce has already given the Skins the opportunity to match, and they decided it didn't fit their salary cap projections for the next few years. I doubt Pierce would totally forsake Williams, not to mention Snyder's checkbook. Barrow's supposedly going to be ready to practice during the offseason camps, and they've re-signed their young backups, so maybe throwing a lot of money at Pierce doesn't make sense, given those factors.

Very well could be, I hope not though.

SmootSmack · 03-02-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah he's unrestricted, but he said recently that he would give the Skins a chance to match any offers. We'll see if he holds true to that, or maybe more importantly, will the Skins consider matching if they are indeed given that chance?

Yeah upon further inspection of the article I noticed that AP didn't sign but an "agreement is in place"

But I think we've talked before about how Marshall is a natural MLB. So maybe if Barrow doesn't pan out then you go Washington, Marshall, Arrington

wolfeskins · 03-02-2005, 10:26 PM

the skins could definately save some money by not resigning pierce, they already have barrow signed and ready. i'm not saying it's the right move but it is something to think about.

KLHJ2 · 03-02-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the skins could definately save some money by not resigning pierce, they already have barrow signed and ready. i'm not saying it's the right move but it is something to think about.

Well spoken and enough said farewell pierce. Borrow its time to earn your paycheck and lets draft a LB.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2005, 10:31 PM

I don't think we should match it, but I defer to Gibbs and Williams.

Pierce's deal isn't far from what we gave Trotter. Pierce looks like a Pro Bowler, but he's only had one season. Plus, Williams made our defense look great with Wynn, Griffin, Salave'a, and Evans on our defensive line, LeMar Marshall at LB, and Clark at safety. Half our defensive starters were undrafted free agents. So, perhaps Pierce looked better than he really is.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2005, 10:33 PM

Clifton Smith was signed at MLB and was a stud at Syracuse. He left early at Syracuse and many scouts felt he had the talent to develop into a second round draft pick. He has no experience in the Pros, but we seem to have developed a knack for getting good undrafted free agents on defense. Or, at the very least, Williams is good at masking holes on defense. With Barrow coming back, I'm not terrified by the loss of Pierce.

But, if we also lose Smoot, we are going to need some help on defense (either with the pass rush or in coverage).

KLHJ2 · 03-02-2005, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Clifton Smith was signed at MLB and was a stud at Syracuse. He left early at Syracuse and many scouts felt he had the talent to develop into a second round draft pick. He has no experience in the Pros, but we seem to have developed a knack for getting good undrafted free agents on defense. Or, at the very least, Williams is good at masking holes on defense. With Barrow coming back, I'm not terrified by the loss of Pierce.

But, if we also lose Smoot, we are going to need some help on defense (either with the pass rush or in coverage).

We will also need soe help in run support, because Smoot is good at that as well.

SmootSmack · 03-02-2005, 10:38 PM

I think it's the intangibles I worry about losing when it comes to Pierce. He was basically a coach on the field, always aware of where his teammates had to be. What they were supposed to be doing, etc. Most players have a hard enough time just worrying about themselves

Daseal · 03-02-2005, 10:38 PM

He's not worth the money.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by angryssg

We will also need soe help in run support, because Smoot is good at that as well.

I'm not so worried about run support; Pierce was primarily a coverage linebacker and Smoot would try to tackle, but he'd come up limping after tackling scat backs.

wolfeskins · 03-02-2005, 10:41 PM

if we do lose pierce we won't know exactly what we've lost until we see him play for another team, in a different system but if we lose smoot we do know what we are losing , not the best cb in the league but a pretty good one.

Gmanc711 · 03-02-2005, 10:43 PM

Damn, very dissapointed about this. I'll still hold out the same hope, but man that is a blow. Well I was saying today if we can keep just him or smoot I'll be happy.

Please Fred!

KLHJ2 · 03-02-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

He's not worth the money.

Neither was Dieon Sanders, Bruce Smith, Mark Brunell, Jesse Armstead, Trotter, or Borrow, however Pierce deserves it more than any of thers guys.

saden1 · 03-02-2005, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

He's not worth the money.

What do you base that on?

Daseal · 03-02-2005, 10:59 PM

The difference is, with the exception of Trotter none of the other guys were products of their respective systems. Just too old to perform. Or in Barrow's case - injured.

03-02-2005, 10:26 PM	#33
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone the skins could definately save some money by not resigning pierce, they already have barrow signed and ready. i'm not saying it's the right move but it is something to think about.

03-02-2005, 10:31 PM	#35
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone I don't think we should match it, but I defer to Gibbs and Williams. Pierce's deal isn't far from what we gave Trotter. Pierce looks like a Pro Bowler, but he's only had one season. Plus, Williams made our defense look great with Wynn, Griffin, Salave'a, and Evans on our defensive line, LeMar Marshall at LB, and Clark at safety. Half our defensive starters were undrafted free agents. So, perhaps Pierce looked better than he really is.

03-02-2005, 10:33 PM	#36
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone Clifton Smith was signed at MLB and was a stud at Syracuse. He left early at Syracuse and many scouts felt he had the talent to develop into a second round draft pick. He has no experience in the Pros, but we seem to have developed a knack for getting good undrafted free agents on defense. Or, at the very least, Williams is good at masking holes on defense. With Barrow coming back, I'm not terrified by the loss of Pierce. But, if we also lose Smoot, we are going to need some help on defense (either with the pass rush or in coverage).

03-02-2005, 10:38 PM	#38
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone I think it's the intangibles I worry about losing when it comes to Pierce. He was basically a coach on the field, always aware of where his teammates had to be. What they were supposed to be doing, etc. Most players have a hard enough time just worrying about themselves __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-02-2005, 10:38 PM	#39
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone He's not worth the money.

03-02-2005, 10:41 PM	#41
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone if we do lose pierce we won't know exactly what we've lost until we see him play for another team, in a different system but if we lose smoot we do know what we are losing , not the best cb in the league but a pretty good one.

03-02-2005, 10:43 PM	#42
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone Damn, very dissapointed about this. I'll still hold out the same hope, but man that is a blow. Well I was saying today if we can keep just him or smoot I'll be happy. Please Fred! __________________ #21

03-02-2005, 10:59 PM	#45
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Re: FOX Sports Says Pierce is Gone The difference is, with the exception of Trotter none of the other guys were products of their respective systems. Just too old to perform. Or in Barrow's case - injured.

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