HUGE difference from 2009 preseason to 2010 present!

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Yes, they actually have a coach Saden!!

I also feel that with the scheme change and the amount of time that the players and coaches have spent around each other this offseason learning the nuances of what they are trying to do is showing up on the field.

It may not be showing on the scoreboard yet but I am sure that coach likes what he is seeing in some respects in the film room.

I was hoping to see a team lead by our running game this year, but I am not so sure on that point just yet.

[Longtimefan]

Still trying to figure out just what kind of team we're going to be. Don't put too much stock in preseason games, they're basically played for the purpose of evaluation and a process for elimination.

Two things I've witnessed so far that must be improved upon....running the ball and stopping the run. Stats, I'm not so much concerned about at this time.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Still trying to figure out just what kind of team we're going to be. Don't put too much stock in preseason games, they're basically played for the purpose of evaluation and a process for elimination.

Two things I've witnessed so far that must be improved upon....running the ball and stopping the run. Stats, I'm not so much concerned about at this time.

The red flag is going up for me if they can't begin to stop the run -- that's definitely a concern.

I just posted in another thread that our running game is lacking now because there are three new guys on the line who have yet to play a full game together -- to get a sense of how they're going to gel as a unit. There simply hasn't been enough time for them to develop chemistry just yet. Remember, only Dockery and Rabach have playing time with each other.

I'm not worried about the rushing attack yet.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

The red flag is going up for me if they can't begin to stop the run -- that's definitely a concern.

I just posted in another thread that our running game is lacking now because there are three new guys on the line who have yet to play a full game together -- to get a sense of how they're going to gel as a unit. There simply hasn't been enough time for them to develop chemistry just yet. Remember, only Dockery and Rabach have playing time with each other.

I'm not worried about the rushing attack yet.

I'm impressed with the physicality of the o-line. Should they continue to play with drive and determination, the running game should improve. I agree with the assertion that the more reps they get together, the more the production should increase.

[aceinthehouse]

People are scared of how our defense is playing and yet the 1st team has given up 1 offensive TD by the ravens. From the 1 yard line and from that fake punt.

Yes,I've noticed that we are giving up rushing yards,but football isn't about yards and stats. it's what team puts the most points on the scoreboard.

Not to mention Fat Al has been running with the 2nd team for all of preseason except for a few snaps against the jets. Where he tossed Mangold like a rag doll.

I love what I have seen.
Gang tackling...
more caused turnovers as Haslet promised
And everyone flying to the ball and not walking around.

If this is vanilla,then we are going to be crazy good.

And our pass defense is awesome..
I mean..I had no idea carlos rogers could cover people...SERIOUSLY! lol
D-hall is a flat out playmaker.

Where are the haters on his aquisition?
Come out now...

And the passing game is night and day from last year...
We actually throw the ball past 10 yards from the line of scrimmage...it's really a neat concept..lol

I am concerned about the running game.
Not because our O-line can't run block...
But because I'm wondering if ANY of our RB's are simply...

fast enough.
That does concern me....
But I think that will open up,when Mcnabb is throwing 70 yard darts to armstrong or moss..
Great passing opens up the running game,just like it does vice versa(playaction,etc)..

No worries on my end Skins fans!!

[aceinthehouse]

This has nothing to do with us winning or losing...this is not some "Colts" comparison...

This is a graph of all the little things improving. A sample in just a few meaningless games.
But not so meaningless.

What's you see is the team improving in all phases of the game to become great.
All the little things.

We're causing more turnovers
We're getting more 1st downs
Our 3rd down efficiency is much better

All these things are not because of mcnabb..
Or because we Trent williams...
Or because we moved landry to F.Safety...
None of these..
All these certainly help and are upgrades...
but not why we are playing discipline football here.

it's because i'm seeing the attention to detail, by this coaching staff to correct all the "little" things to make this team superb!

There not just changing schemes guys...
That was the easy part.

They're changing the culture in the locker room
The attitude
The aggressiveness on Defense

Like a Drill Seargent ...
They're breaking these guys down and building them back up to what Shanny wants of them.

I know many don't see or even respect this...
But as a former Coach myself...I sure do
and this is certainly not easy to do Period...
Let alone in 1 offseason

Those of you who have us predicted to go 8-8 or worse with a HOF coach and Mcnabb,should have your fan card examined or your head..one of the 2. (But I guess I understand....I think our Players have been thinking like some of you guys for far too long and that has changed with Shanny and staff)

This team will win 10 games minimum!! Book it!
(I say 14)

[beemnsevenspop]

Re your 1st observation, SmootSmack:

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

beemnsevenspop... you are definately not drinking any Koolaid are you. more like some sour ass the redskins suck Koolaid....

Re your subsequent 1, 2, and 3:

I recognize that preseason is a means to fine-tool what was learned in training camp, and is designed to evaluate talent and determine who stays, and who is kicked to the curb. In the end, hopefully everyone realizes that the preseason win/loss record is meaningless.

However, GOOD teams who perform dismally in preseason possess an innate ability, when things count, to kick it up a notch or twelve and behave on the field like they care. (See GMScud's remark concerning the Colts.)

Other teams, who perform dismally (or marginally) during preseason, seem to have a knack for carrying their losing/"I'm here for the money, don't you know?" attitudes on to the field for the next seventeen weeks. (See GMScud's remark concerning Spurrier.)

The Colts belong to the former group, and the 'Skins, well, despite some notable exceptions thus far, are destined, I fear, to return to their old mentalities. We may have an improved attitude (just how much improved will become apparent over the course of the season), but the talent pool is woefully deficient, IMO. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but old habits - as defined by our prior seventeen-year performance - are hard to break.

I interpreted his inclusion of the Colts in his remarks as an invitation to draw a comparison between us and them; hence, my observation, "We are not the Colts".

There simply IS no comparison. And that was MY point.

[MTK]

Nothing wrong with taking a peek at the stats this time of year, but really you can't take much from them. At this time of year I think you want to see things like effort, players executing the fundamentals, mental focus, things you can't necessarily fit neatly in a stat category. And from that perspective it's safe to say this isn't the 2009 Redskins. I'm definitely excited about this season and the new regime in place. Time to let the past go folks. There is finally some real change taking place.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Nothing wrong with taking a peek at the stats this time of year, but really you can't take much from them. At this time of year I think you want to see things like effort, players executing the fundamentals, mental focus, things you can't necessarily fit neatly in a stat category. And from that perspective it's safe to say this isn't the 2009 Redskins. I'm definitely excited about this season and the new regime in place. Time to let the past go folks. There is finally some real change taking place.

Stop stop you had me at nothing you had me at nothing LOL. Oh hell yeah really excited about this season 2 things competitive & adjustments 2 things this orgainization will be/do this season.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I only got to watch the Ravens-Redskins game thus far, and I was much more impressed with our QB pocket presence than from a year ago. I liked JC, but if he was under center in that Ravens game they would have had about four sacks and a safety in the first half. That alone is a huge improvement.

[JWsleep]

Given that we're in the middle of a major change throughout the organization, I expected preseason to be a bit messy. Still, I think there are some decent signs for the team:

1. Passing attack. Light years beyond Zorn's offense (and Gibbs II, for what it's worth).
2. Turnovers on D--an emphasis and it's played out well so far.
3. Better QB play. The reads from all our QBs make me happy, after the slow-motion JC era.

Worries:

1. Run offense. Here I think the time it takes to implement Shanny's zone scheme is showing. Also, we don't yet have the players to do it, IMO.
2. Run D. Worries at the nose--is Keemu healthy? But this may also be a learning curve deal. Still, I don't think we yet have the personnel here.
3. Depth.

My feeling is that it's going to take Allen and Shanny a few seasons to get everything in place, no matter what they say about McNabb and "win now."

Bottom line: at least we don't look like a goofy gimick team out there. We look like a football team, for the first time in a while. Even if we're not contenders yet, I think it's hard to doubt we're moving in the right direction.

[BaltimoreSkins]

An experienced coach like MS also can mask deficiencies better than a coach like JZ. Early on that might be enough to eek out a win (or two). ie the running stats look better just because the passing game spreads the field.