Medical/Recreational Marijuana thread

[MTK]

Vaporizers are where it's at. Or so I've heard.

Regardless, weed doesn't have all the chemicals and additives that cigarettes do.

[firstdown]

Imagine how hard my post would be to read if I was stoned.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Imagine how hard my post would be to read if I was stoned.

Victory ITT.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Imagine how hard my post would be to read if I was stoned.

There's a saying that you can smoke yourself straight... so who knows it might help!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

This is stoner talk even if you dont smoke.

To say weed has never killed anyone is a absolute myth, especially when using the same logic that tobacco kills people via chemicals and carcinogens causing death from things like cancer. There are no chemicals or carcinogens in weed? And how many weed related deaths are there a year, would there be more if it were legal? People dont make poor choices when there high, or drive a car while there high?

Im personally all for legalizing it and think it will be a great thing when it happens. I do agree that it will dramatically reduce drug dealers and the drug trade and raise tax revenues, but more importantly, to me, it will give people the freedom to make decisions that affect their bodies themselves.

A long while ago I got a allergy test and it turns out im allergic to dust mites. So this doctor gives me some Flonase and says I should use it every day to combat my allergy. There was this girl I remembered from high school that used Afrin all time and was literately addicted to it (look it up). Also I think if you use Afrin too much you can even permanently harden normally soft nasal tissues and then have even more problems with congestion among other things. So I asked my doctor about this and it brought about a whole discussion. Pretty much everything used to be OTC back in the day and the FDA wasn’t around until about 100 years ago and they couldn’t/didn’t test things like they can/do now. So Flonase is a safe drug that can be used daily without addition or permanent long term negative effects, but there are potential interactions and side effects from it (all of which are much less substantial then potential negatives of Afrin), so it has to be regulated nowadays. Things like tylenol, advil, decongestions, and other drugs are over the counter because they have been around for a while, not because they are safer or less effective than other available prescription drugs. Remember when Claritin was available only by prescription, then it went OTC? It takes a long time for even the safest drugs to be OTC. Seriously think about it why in the hell should all these drugs be only available by prescription? Who is going to abuse Claritin or Flonase? So I guess my point is why are people unable to make decisions for themselves, whether it be to smoke weed and combat some dust mites with Flonase, or drink a beer and help relieve a headache with some advil? Its all pretty ridiculous when you think about the over regulation especially when it comes to our own bodies.

Well. There definitely isn't an increased rate of cancer.

Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer

And smoking weed seems to kill brain cells at the same rate of drinking alcohol.

So.. What about weed is gonna kill you? Hmm.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well. There definitely isn't an increased rate of cancer.

Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer

And smoking weed seems to kill brain cells at the same rate of drinking alcohol.

So.. What about weed is gonna kill you? Hmm.

The munchies maybe?

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Vaporizers are where it's at. Or so I've heard.

Regardless, weed doesn't have all the chemicals and additives that cigarettes do.

that's what i meant. and i prefaced it by saying that smoking anything is not good for your lungs.

but point taken as far as impaired driving. but i'd like to see the stats on the alcohol-related crashes/deaths compared to weed-only impaired driving. not saying people should drive around all high'd up or that no one's ever killed someone cuz they drove high without drinking at all...
poor phrasing on my part.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Rainy Parade

that's what i meant. and i prefaced it by saying that smoking anything is not good for your lungs.

but point taken as far as impaired driving. but i'd like to see the stats on the alcohol-related crashes/deaths compared to weed-only impaired driving. not saying people should drive around all high'd up or that no one's ever killed someone cuz they drove high without drinking at all...
poor phrasing on my part.

Kinda hard for a stoner to get killed driving since he's probably going 20 mph in the slow lane, if he even leaves the house at all. Stoners are why delivery was invented. lol

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Kinda hard for a stoner to get killed driving since he's probably going 20 mph in the slow lane, if he even leaves the house at all. Stoners are why delivery was invented. lol

"dude we should totally go out for a drive!"

10 minutes later


"what?"

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Well. There definitely isn't an increased rate of cancer.

Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer

And smoking weed seems to kill brain cells at the same rate of drinking alcohol.

So.. What about weed is gonna kill you? Hmm.

Dang, thats actually pretty cool. I like how at the end of the article the guy who did the study says "we certainly would not recommend that people smoke marijuana to protect themselves against cancer,". If i was a chronic cigarette smoker id probably smoke weed just to be safe.

But I guess weed can cause heart problems:
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20000203051658data_trunc_sys.shtml

[Rainy Parade]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

But I guess weed can cause heart problems:
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20000203051658data_trunc_sys.shtml

so can cheeseburgers.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

There's a saying that you can smoke yourself straight... so who knows it might help!

But what happens when your trying to smoke yourself straight and in the middle forget what your doing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

But what happens when your trying to smoke yourself straight and in the middle forget what your doing.

You sound like someone with experience

[Dirtbag59]

Easily the most overrated drug ever. It personally reminds me of that infomercial you see at night by the guy who writes the natural cure or something to that effect. Cancer, depression, glaucoma, even a source of fuel (as ironic as that is). Then of course rather then stressing the use of a vaporizer which would be much easier on the lungs everyone is told to smoke it by the cool kids.

Plus if you've ever had to deal with living next to someone who smokes pot you'd realize just how much of a pain in the ass it is. Basically your place constantly smells like shit and if you're allergic to it like I am you'll end up with a handful of symptoms that you shouldn't have to deal with. 9 times out of 10 people that use it don't give a shit about how it effects other people, in fact I saw a story about a guy who was smoking it in California that was causing a little girl next door to experience horrible allergy symptoms, so bad that she couldn't sleep at night. The guy knew about the problem yet he kept smoking.

Then of course theres your buddies who talk about how great they are at driving when they're stoned yet fail a field sobriety test. I think thats one of the things that concern me the most. The idea that you can drive stoned. The roads are dangerous enough as is.

I wouldn't have so much of a problem with it if people used a vaporizer rather then smoking it but after dealing with the pain of the ass in living next to a pair of chronic pot heads I'd have to say I strongly support it being illegal at least for recreational purposes. Though I'm clearly in the minority here.

[firstdown]

I tried it once back in my school days but I did not inhale.