Haynesworth back to the Titans?

SBXVII · 04-06-2010, 03:20 PM

I'm just a bit confused as to how hard tweeking any contracts or making a trade would be...

#1- can we not, with agreement with AH redo his contract basically extending the remaining of his money owed him over a lengthier period of time which would make him a more interesting commodity?

I mean if AH is not interested in staying or playing in our new 3-4 defense then he would make some accomidations in order to get traded.

#2- could we not find a team who would be interested in him and him in them and make a new contract for the new team with AH's approval and trade him to them afterward?

I would think as long as AH is wanting a new contract in order to be traded then it should be fine. All the time owners redo contracts basically adding money and screwing themselves in having to pay more over a longer period. Is it not possible for the player to accept a new contract or want one in which he makes slightly less each year then his original contract in order to facilitate a trade?

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE · 04-06-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Not on his back he wont!

Who's going to put him on his back? Rabach???

Dam that, dont let Haynesworth go ANYWHERE....If we do get rid of him, we better dam well get a GREAT return. We better not trade that dude for no dam Adam Carriker....Haynesworth better retire as a Redskin. We shouldnt even be converting to a 3-4 anyway.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-06-2010, 03:25 PM

Ideally, we could package Carter and Haynesworth together in a deal and get more than either of them are worth individually. Neither really fit into our current plans and ast year showed what they could accomplish when working on the same line. I'd say the two of them together would be worth the equivalent of a low 1st round pick. I doubt New Orleans would be interested.

On a side note, I actually looked at the teams who have draft picks in the bottom of the first round and everyone but Minnesota and New Orleans runs the 3-4. So the most of the best teams in the NFL run the 3-4, while most of the worst run the 4-3. I'm sure its probably just a coincidence but, generally speaking, the best teams in the NFL have stud Quarterbacks and run the 3-4. surprised i never noticed that before.

SBXVII · 04-06-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jdc65

I do think that Haynesworth will be traded during the draft, if not before. But I think it will be for Offensive Tackle. Possibly Baltimore for Gaither, Indy for Johnson, Saints for Bushrod, or the Rams for Barron. Obviously there would be other players or picks tossed in for balance, but the gist of a deal is Haynesworth for an OT.

If AH is unhappy here what makes you think he would be happy playing in Baltimore in a 3-4?

AH got a big contract so he's not mad at the owner. He's in a situation where he has a better HC so it's not that. He does not have his same old positions coach for which he didn't like at the end of the season so it's not that. The only thing I can think of is it's either he does not want to be here during the off season and would prefer to be with his family or he truly dispises the 3-4. I'm thinking the latter. If he was stuck playing NT all the time and unhappy about it I could see his resentement. But the team went out and picked up a NT and said they hoped to use him as a DE. Yes he would be used as a NT once and a while, only to give the other guy a break. Can he not see what havoc he would cause with the NT we have and Him on one side and Daniels on the other? Opponents would be lost as to how to defend it.

SirClintonPortis · 04-06-2010, 03:26 PM

Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.

SBXVII · 04-06-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.

Not sure what the 49ers run but the could part ways with one 1st rounder or Seattle.

SirClintonPortis · 04-06-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Not sure what the 49ers run but the could part ways with one 1st rounder or Seattle.

I'm pretty sure the run a 3-4.

SmootSmack · 04-06-2010, 03:35 PM

I don't think AH is going anywhere. But if they trade him it won't simply be for a high draft pick. They're not going to spend all that money on him, then turn around and trade him for an unproven guy they need to spend a lot of money on.

Now AH and Rogers to St. Louis for Carriker, Atogwe, and the #33 overall....I'd consider that.

diehardskin2982 · 04-06-2010, 03:35 PM

you don't put an angry, motivated AH on a NFC East team... We will keep AH dispite what fans think.

MTK · 04-06-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

you don't put an angry, motivated AH on a NFC East team... We will keep AH dispite what fans think.

They just tried to trade him to the Eagles... what's stopping them from trading him to NY?

Dirtbag59 · 04-06-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Now AH and Rogers to St. Louis for Carriker, Atogwe, and the #33 overall....I'd consider that.

Would St. Louis consider it?

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE · 04-06-2010, 03:38 PM

I dont think it is fact that Haynesworth refuses to play in a 3-4, I think he just doesnt want to play NT.

REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE · 04-06-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.

Totally agree.....

12thMan · 04-06-2010, 03:40 PM

My attitude is if Donovan McNabb just stood at podium and declared he's a Redskin, any f*ckin thing can happen.

CultBrennan59 · 04-06-2010, 03:40 PM

maybe tampa bay would want haynesworth for their second and another pick, or for donald penn straight up

04-06-2010, 03:20 PM	#31
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? I'm just a bit confused as to how hard tweeking any contracts or making a trade would be... #1- can we not, with agreement with AH redo his contract basically extending the remaining of his money owed him over a lengthier period of time which would make him a more interesting commodity? I mean if AH is not interested in staying or playing in our new 3-4 defense then he would make some accomidations in order to get traded. #2- could we not find a team who would be interested in him and him in them and make a new contract for the new team with AH's approval and trade him to them afterward? I would think as long as AH is wanting a new contract in order to be traded then it should be fine. All the time owners redo contracts basically adding money and screwing themselves in having to pay more over a longer period. Is it not possible for the player to accept a new contract or want one in which he makes slightly less each year then his original contract in order to facilitate a trade?

04-06-2010, 03:26 PM	#35
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04-06-2010, 03:35 PM	#38
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? I don't think AH is going anywhere. But if they trade him it won't simply be for a high draft pick. They're not going to spend all that money on him, then turn around and trade him for an unproven guy they need to spend a lot of money on. Now AH and Rogers to St. Louis for Carriker, Atogwe, and the #33 overall....I'd consider that. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-06-2010, 03:35 PM	#39
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? you don't put an angry, motivated AH on a NFC East team... We will keep AH dispite what fans think. __________________ That got ugly fast

04-06-2010, 03:38 PM	#42
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 218	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? I dont think it is fact that Haynesworth refuses to play in a 3-4, I think he just doesnt want to play NT.

04-06-2010, 03:25 PM	#33
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? Ideally, we could package Carter and Haynesworth together in a deal and get more than either of them are worth individually. Neither really fit into our current plans and ast year showed what they could accomplish when working on the same line. I'd say the two of them together would be worth the equivalent of a low 1st round pick. I doubt New Orleans would be interested. On a side note, I actually looked at the teams who have draft picks in the bottom of the first round and everyone but Minnesota and New Orleans runs the 3-4. So the most of the best teams in the NFL run the 3-4, while most of the worst run the 4-3. I'm sure its probably just a coincidence but, generally speaking, the best teams in the NFL have stud Quarterbacks and run the 3-4. surprised i never noticed that before. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

04-06-2010, 03:40 PM	#44
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? My attitude is if Donovan McNabb just stood at podium and declared he's a Redskin, any f*ckin thing can happen.

04-06-2010, 03:40 PM	#45
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Haynesworth back to the Titans? maybe tampa bay would want haynesworth for their second and another pick, or for donald penn straight up __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

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