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Old 11-06-2004, 01:30 AM   #31
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Lewis wasn't going to fix the major protection problems we had on offense though.

Spurrier was supposed to be an offensive genius, instead he was very overmatched by NFL defensive coordinators who read his offense like a children's book.
and they're reading gibbs' offense like one right now too... i think that in time spurrier would have been successful, just like i hope/think gibbs will be
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Old 11-06-2004, 07:32 AM   #32
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If I'm not mistaken, I think I remember Ramsey layed out on his back far too often due to Spurrier's Offensive "Genius." Gibbs maximizes protection for the quarterback...If the protection isn't there it is on the players not on Gibbs...Under Spurrier the protection problems were the result of poor coaching not player inability.
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Old 11-06-2004, 10:22 AM   #33
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If I'm not mistaken, I think I remember Ramsey layed out on his back far too often due to Spurrier's Offensive "Genius." Gibbs maximizes protection for the quarterback...If the protection isn't there it is on the players not on Gibbs...Under Spurrier the protection problems were the result of poor coaching not player inability.
precisely. if Gibbs has two TEs (and a better blocker than Trung Canidate) in one every play to NOT have his QB on his back, but the defense STILL gets through, how is that Gibbs' fault?? thats why Rasby's gone. and most likely, why Ramsey isn't playing, because while he'll throw better, he won't have time to because he can't escape the rush.

in Spurrier's no protection schemes, only maybe Vick could escape everything that came.
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:05 PM   #34
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Last year the protection problems were due to the system and to poor coaching.

This year it's more due to lack of talent up front. We're missing our best lineman in Jansen, we have a 2nd year guard in Dockery who is still developing, and a very average center in Raymer.

I don't think the protection problems are even comparable. Last year defenses were busting through like a jail break, I don't see the same thing happening this year.
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:11 PM   #35
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Last year the protection problems were due to the system and to poor coaching.

This year it's more due to lack of talent up front. We're missing our best lineman in Jansen, we have a 2nd year guard in Dockery who is still developing, and a very average center in Raymer.

I don't think the protection problems are even comparable. Last year defenses were busting through like a jail break, I don't see the same thing happening this year.
Oh absolutley. We at least have some resembalence of a O-line this year. Granted were not great, were proboly pretty average overall, but we can at least be somewhat productive. Last year we just got rolled, especially on passing. Our run blocking was still pretty well last year..... the whole 6 times a game we used it.
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Old 11-06-2004, 02:14 PM   #36
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Matty, that's true. I'm curious to see how Gibbs would react to half of the negative press Spurrier had though.
You don't think Gibbs is getting grilled right now??

All I see are people saying what a mistake Brunell is and how stubborn he is by sticking by him. I've seen him ripped for poor clock and game management. On a weekly basis Wilbon goes into the other teams' locker room just to ask them how bad Brunell is. Anywhere you go now, sports radio, the papers, the internet, you'll hear people ripping on him.

Gibbs is feeling the heat. Maybe not as much as Spurrier, but Spurrier left himself open to more alot more criticism partly because of the cocky attitude he had coming into the job. Spurrier didn't seem to have a plan, talk about a flip-flopper.

One week he would say he needs to run more, the next week he would say he's got to play his style of ball more and pass, then he would go back to needing to run more, he regularly switched QB's, and on and on. His indecisiveness made him an easy target with the media. His awww shucks reponses also made him easier to attack.
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Old 11-06-2004, 11:12 PM   #37
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Spurrier is the reason Gibbs is having difficulty.
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:45 AM   #38
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Spurrier is the reason Gibbs is having difficulty.
I hope that's sarcastic cause Coach Spurrier would have twice as many wins as Gibbie
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:55 AM   #39
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I hope that's sarcastic cause Coach Spurrier would have twice as many wins as Gibbie
Zack, seriously what would it take for you to change your opinion on Gibbs? How many wins will it take?
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Old 11-07-2004, 09:37 AM   #41
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No sarcasm intended.

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I hope that's sarcastic cause Coach Spurrier would have twice as many wins as Gibbie
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:05 PM   #42
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If you read Doc Walker's article the one way Gibbs separates himself is team discipline (Ie Sean Taylor incident with drinking), the attention to detail, and the Redskins being the least penalized team. With time the team will progress and Gibbs will see the fruits of his rewards.........

During the Spurrier regime it was comical to read the lack of discipline (cell phones during meetings, real estate agents in meetings,) and Spurrier not even knowing that a player had been cut, lack of attention to detail.......one dimensional offense, Spurrier vindicated.....I THINK NOT!~~
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:06 PM   #43
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I hope that's sarcastic cause Coach Spurrier would have twice as many wins as Gibbie
Can we all pitch in and get Zack some Nicoderm to help him stop his smoking habit..........

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Old 11-07-2004, 01:17 PM   #44
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Can we all pitch in and get Zack some Nicoderm to help him stop his smoking habit..........

yeah because apparently just asking him to stop with that after every post isn't enough

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Old 11-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #45
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Zack's been spending some time in the tent with Ricky and Lenny. Can't put down the bud.

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yeah because apparently just asking him to stop with that after every post isn't enough

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