What must Jim Zorn accomplish this season to keep his job?

[DBUCHANON101]

JC has all of the talent you need in a QB, but i feel he has trouble makin quick reads and if he doesnt breakout soon we may see a change at the position. The Coltists will be out in full force if he continues to do well in OTA's and preseason and JC starts to stumble

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

JC has all of the talent you need in a QB, but i feel he has trouble makin quick reads and if he doesnt breakout soon we may see a change at the position. The Coltists will be out in full force if he continues to do well in OTA's and preseason and JC starts to stumble

I think you're right. The league is filled with QBs who are physically gifted. The ones who make it are the ones who excel in the Xs and Os and can understand what the defense is going to do before they do it. Watch guys like Brees, Manning and Warner and you'll notice that the defense can't get to them because they get the ball out so quick, not necessariliy because their O-line is giving them all day to throw. JC should be more comfortable in Zorn's system, so I suspect we'll see a lot of improvement.

Zorn's success is directly tied to Campbell's performance.

As Campbell goes, so goes the team and as the team goes, so goes Zorn.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

I think you're right. The league is filled with QBs who are physically gifted. The ones who make it are the ones who excel in the Xs and Os and can understand what the defense is going to do before they do it. Watch guys like Brees, Manning and Warner and you'll notice that the defense can't get to them because they get the ball out so quick, not necessariliy because their O-line is giving them all day to throw. JC should be more comfortable in Zorn's system, so I suspect we'll see a lot of improvement.

Zorn's success is directly tied to Campbell's performance.

As Campbell goes, so goes the team and as the team goes, so goes Zorn.

Don't forget that Campbell was subjected to a lot of dropped passes and our receivers were less than stellar. I felt JC was reading defenses well based on his low ints.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Don't forget that Campbell was subjected to a lot of dropped passes and our receivers were less than stellar. I felt JC was reading defenses well based on his low ints.

Excuses as far as I'm concerned. I can understand poor offensive production against the likes of the Steelers and Ravens, but look how the offense performed against the Lions (worst team ever and we needed a punt return to win), Rams, Bengals (Campbell was outplated by Fitzpatrick, who was running for his life all game) and 49ers.

6 INTS tells me you're throwing a lot of 5 yard passes, unless it's against 20 plus TDs. 12 points a game over the last 8 and only 151 yards in a meaningless game against the 49ers to end the season? How does the saying go? You can put lipstick on a pig...

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Excuses as far as I'm concerned. I can understand poor offensive production against the likes of the Steelers and Ravens, but look how the offense performed against the Lions (worst team ever and we needed a punt return to win), Rams, Bengals (Campbell was outplated by Fitzpatrick, who was running for his life all game) and 49ers.

6 INTS tells me you're throwing a lot of 5 yard passes, unless it's against 20 plus TDs. 12 points a game over the last 8 and only 151 yards in a meaningless game against the 49ers to end the season? How does the saying go? You can put lipstick on a pig...

I think Campbell, can, and will, step it up this year. I also think Zorn will open the playbook up. They already have twice as many plays installed as last year. I don't see how dropped passes can be construed as just an excuse. Dropped passes kill drives. The QB cannot throw the pass and then run downfield and catch it. Any way you look at it, a pass is a 50/50 proposition and if a pass is dropped, that's on the receiver, not the QB. There have been some amazing catches made in the last 2 Super Bowls that have made Manning and Big Ben look awfully good. Granted they made the throws, but without the spectacular catches, we wouldn't be constantly talking about how good they are because they won SB's. If the receivers had not of made those great plays...no ring for Manning and 1 less for Ben.

[GTripp0012]

This year's team has to be better than last years team.

Simple, ain't it.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This year's team has to be better than last years team.

Simple, ain't it.

Much too simple. Zorn had better make the playoffs if he hopes to stick around.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This year's team has to be better than last years team.

Simple, ain't it.

You think 9-7 secures him a job?

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

You think 9-7 secures him a job?

If we make the playoffs with that 9-7 record I think it does. If not we let Zorn and Campbell walk imo.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

If we make the playoffs with that 9-7 record I think it does. If not we let Zorn and Campbell walk imo.

Not if we ride the defense's coat-tails into the playoffs. Zorn has to prove he can field a potent offense. That's what he was brought here to do. A lot of coaches could have produced more than 12 points a game over the last half of the season. I think Zorn has to do a lot better than that, and if he does this team could go far.

[MTK]

LOL Turner is a good coach, he just needs a team full of vets that can run itself with minimum coaching and supervision. LOL good one

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL Turner is a good coach, he just needs a team full of vets that can run itself with minimum coaching and supervision. LOL good one

So you don't think Norv is a good NFL offensive coach? Sorry but I'm going to give Norv credit when credit is due. He may not have been the right coach when he was here cause that was a MAJOR rebuilding job. And no one does good at Oak. But he's been solid at SD. Rivers has turned into a top tier NFL QB and he's taken that offense to another level. He's gotten them to the playoffs two straight years and won playoff games. That's something Marty could not do. The guy got a good year out of Alex Smith for crying out loud. Norv can coach, but as I said he's not the coach for a young team. I bet if you stuck Norv in at NE they wouldn't miss a beat....as long as you had the vets, strong GM and defensive coordinator.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So you don't think Norv is a good NFL offensive coach? Sorry but I'm going to give Norv credit when credit is due. He may not have been the right coach when he was here cause that was a MAJOR rebuilding job. And no one does good at Oak. But he's been solid at SD. Rivers has turned into a top tier NFL QB and he's taken that offense to another level. He's gotten them to the playoffs two straight years and won playoff games. That's something Marty could not do. The guy got a good year out of Alex Smith for crying out loud. Norv can coach, but as I said he's not the coach for a young team. I bet if you stuck Norv in at NE they wouldn't miss a beat....as long as you had the vets, strong GM and defensive coordinator.

Good coordinator, medicore head coach.

Norv would ruin NE pretty quick, let's not kid ourselves. Saying NE wouldn't miss a beat is a pretty big insult to Belichick, who despite being hated by most fans is a pretty damn good coach, one of the best in fact.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Good coordinator, medicore head coach.

Norv would ruin NE pretty quick, let's not kid ourselves. Saying NE wouldn't miss a beat is a pretty big insult to Belichick, who despite being hated by most fans is a pretty damn good coach, one of the best in fact.

Spot on.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Spot on.

Been watching some Hell's Kitchen I see.