Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa!

53Fan · 05-09-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

What about Orakpo?

I would rather see him at DE. He may turn out to be a good LB, he may not. He's proven at DE and that is where he excelled.

vallin21 · 05-09-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I agree Vallin. I'm a little weary of trying guys at different positions other than where they excel. Enough of the experimenting already. If you want a SAM, sign a SAM.

Couldn't agree more 53. You and I have seen what "experimenting" has done to this team

WaldSkins · 05-09-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

I would rather see him at DE. He may turn out to be a good LB, he may not. He's proven at DE and that is where he excelled.

That's what i was trying to say. Why would you draft the best DE in the draft and move him to LB? I don't know what Blache is thinking.

vallin21 · 05-09-2009, 02:10 PM

We just need to leave Orakpo at DE. (If ain't broke dont fix it!) Let's see if he can hold up at LDE first before switching him to SAM. This will be a HUGE mistake if Blache goes through with this. Nevertheless, this will be something to watch for during Training Camp.

53Fan · 05-09-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

That's what i was trying to say. Why would you draft the best DE in the draft and move him to LB? I don't know what Blache is thinking.

I can understand wanting to keep a good player on the field for as many downs as possible. And I can understand that guys who played DE in college have had some success making the transition to LB such as Marcus Washington. And I understand we need help at SAM. I understand all that, but I would rather play a player at the position he excelled at in college unless his skill set doesn't translate well to the pro game. Jenkins, the DB from Ohio State, may be better suited for safety, so I can understand that. I think Orakpo's skill set fits fine for the NFL at DE. Possibly at LB too, but better at DE IMO. Plus he's a proven commodity at DE. So...I agree with you. I understand what we're trying to do, but I don't necessarily agree with it. We'll see how it goes.

The Goat · 05-09-2009, 03:21 PM

Yeah Rak is already on the larger, let's say heavily muscled side, for a SLB. Then knowing his penchant for "growth" and working out i think this kid is likely to beef up...sort of how Daniels did through his transition from college to pro. Bottom line i agree w/ those skeptical of throwing Rak into the SLB. I don't care if our 13th overall pick doesn't play every down...i do want to see him become an elite player at his natural position long term. Maybe that's RDE but my intuition is if in a year he's pushing 275lbs and has gotten even stronger Rak will be one of the most dangerous LDEs in the league.

NM Redskin · 05-09-2009, 07:29 PM

I would like to see what we have in the Henson and Glenn first.

GTripp0012 · 05-09-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Yeah Rak is already on the larger, let's say heavily muscled side, for a SLB. Then knowing his penchant for "growth" and working out i think this kid is likely to beef up...sort of how Daniels did through his transition from college to pro. Bottom line i agree w/ those skeptical of throwing Rak into the SLB. I don't care if our 13th overall pick doesn't play every down...i do want to see him become an elite player at his natural position long term. Maybe that's RDE but my intuition is if in a year he's pushing 275lbs and has gotten even stronger Rak will be one of the most dangerous LDEs in the league.

I should point out that Daniels was a RE for the first, what, 10 years of his career. He was 32 by the time the Redskins decided to move him off the right side.

The Goat · 05-09-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I should point out that Daniels was a RE for the first, what, 10 years of his career. He was 32 by the time the Redskins decided to move him off the right side.

I thought Daniels was our LDE ever since we signed him in '04? I could def be wrong but his '05 campaign (8 sacks) was all at LDE right? I think for a season at least Daniels was the complete DE, both stopping the run and getting to the QB.

53Fan · 05-09-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I thought Daniels was our LDE ever since we signed him in '04? I could def be wrong but his '05 campaign (8 sacks) was all at LDE right? I think for a season at least Daniels was the complete DE, both stopping the run and getting to the QB.

He signed with us in 2004 and played in 5 games that year. I can't remember if he played right or left DE. I believe we also had Renaldo Wynn and Regan Upshaw that year.

53Fan · 05-10-2009, 12:09 AM

Nope. Upshaw was 2003.

GTripp0012 · 05-10-2009, 12:16 AM

He was the RDE in 2005. Wynn played on the other side. Wynn was basically a career LDE.

The Goat · 05-10-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He was the RDE in 2005. Wynn played on the other side. Wynn was basically a career LDE.

Got it. Makes sense too cuz we brought AC here in '06 to play RDE and that's when Daniels switched. It is weird though...I swear i remember Daniels coming off the left side during the playoff game in Tampa. The mind plays tricks...

GTripp0012 · 05-10-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

Got it. Makes sense too cuz we brought AC here in '06 to play RDE and that's when Daniels switched. It is weird though...I swear i remember Daniels coming off the left side during the playoff game in Tampa. The mind plays tricks...

Wynn did break his arm in that game. I forget who played in his place, but it's very possible that Daniels switched sides of the line in that one.

53Fan · 05-10-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wynn did break his arm in that game. I forget who played in his place, but it's very possible that Daniels switched sides of the line in that one.

Ron Warner?

05-09-2009, 02:10 PM	#34
vallin21 The Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,177	Re: Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa! We just need to leave Orakpo at DE. (If ain't broke dont fix it!) Let's see if he can hold up at LDE first before switching him to SAM. This will be a HUGE mistake if Blache goes through with this. Nevertheless, this will be something to watch for during Training Camp.

05-09-2009, 03:21 PM	#36
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa! Yeah Rak is already on the larger, let's say heavily muscled side, for a SLB. Then knowing his penchant for "growth" and working out i think this kid is likely to beef up...sort of how Daniels did through his transition from college to pro. Bottom line i agree w/ those skeptical of throwing Rak into the SLB. I don't care if our 13th overall pick doesn't play every down...i do want to see him become an elite player at his natural position long term. Maybe that's RDE but my intuition is if in a year he's pushing 275lbs and has gotten even stronger Rak will be one of the most dangerous LDEs in the league. __________________ 24-34

05-09-2009, 07:29 PM	#37
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,014	Re: Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa! I would like to see what we have in the Henson and Glenn first. __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

05-10-2009, 12:09 AM	#41
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa! Nope. Upshaw was 2003. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

05-10-2009, 12:16 AM	#42
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Rams released Pisa Tinoisamoa! He was the RDE in 2005. Wynn played on the other side. Wynn was basically a career LDE. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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