I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense.

KLHJ2 · 02-05-2009, 03:49 PM

In addition to every other reason why we shouldn't switch to a 3-4 is the fact that we have small LB's. Offensive guards would have a field day with Fletcher and Blades if they played as the ILB's in a 3-4. I prefer the idea of having 4 bodies on the line to let three roam free.

T.O.Killa · 02-05-2009, 03:49 PM

You are right, Baltimore did run a 4-3. Well, fire the coaches. I hate how concervative Blache was anyway.

redsk1 · 02-05-2009, 04:19 PM

Our D is pretty good and isn't the problem. If our offense was slightly above average we would have won 10-11 games last year.

horny4zorny-nohomo · 02-05-2009, 05:23 PM

i say y not

GTripp0012 · 02-05-2009, 05:48 PM

This isn't an insane idea, but there would be a substancial defensive transition period. Carter has no spot in the 3-4 and he was the key cog on the DL the last two seasons. Taylor could be an OLB, and Monty is the ideal 3-4 NT. Maybe Golston could handle an end spot, and Daniels certainly could, but then the LBs are an issue. Fletch is adaptable, Rocky would be a sunk cost, Blades could play inside, but outside of Jason Taylor, no one else could handle a OLB spot.

So lets say we took Tyson Jackson in the first to play behind Daniels for a year. We've: 1) Ignored the offensive line in the first two rounds 2) Still are incredibly thin at the LB position.

It's an interesting idea, but not something that's practical for right now. Of course, neither are Blache's current schemes, but maybe I'm just being a hater.

Eknox · 02-05-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The reason I like the 3-4 is that it seems to be winning more superbowls and we have a bunch of de that are realy LB size. We also have a bunch of DL that are tweeners in the 4-3. Like Daniels, Evans, and Alexander. I agree our coaches may not be the best fit. But Lewis certainly was able to run a 4-3 here and a 3-4 in Bmore, so maybe they can.

I'm with ya T.O. Killa...I too like the 3-4 a lot of movement and aggressive hard hitting

Paintrain · 02-05-2009, 06:18 PM

That'll come next offseason with Bill Cowher and Dom Capers but it will require a personnel overhaul.

Defensewins · 02-05-2009, 06:58 PM

Switching defensive scheme to 3-4 defense is not the magical answer nor will it improve our team in any drastic way.
The real problem is getting enough good players on this team on both sides of the ball, especially on the lines. We have not done a good job in drafting & acquiring players and how that relates to our salary cap. We are $3M over the cap and we an old team that is .500

tryfuhl · 02-05-2009, 09:23 PM

who's gonna be the nose tackle? we don't have anyone that deserves a double team on a 4 man front.. much less a 3

WaldSkins · 02-05-2009, 09:54 PM

Here's a thought, leave the defense alone. Our defense was ranked 4th last year. Our offense was 19th in yards per game and 28th in points per game.

gaudiomatt · 02-05-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I've been wanting to post this for a long time. Why dont the Redskins go to a 3-4 defense. It seems to be the dominant defense in the league and I think we have the players. Jason Taylor would be better siuted to it and we could have Golston and Evans play the ends and Monty play NT. Wilson could probably play some LB and maybe a Suggs in Free agency or a Dansby. What Do you guys think.

We are not better suited you're just a 3-4 bandwagoner. There's as many terrible 3-4 defenses in this league as there are terrible 4-3 defenses and theres a lot less 3-4.

SBXVII · 02-05-2009, 11:33 PM

Ditto with the title. I really don't care what system/scheme we run so long as it's attacking and the attacking is effective causing the QB to rush his passes or force some throws creating interceptions.

53Fan · 02-06-2009, 12:22 AM

We don't have the LB's, the DL, or the coach for it.

The Goat · 02-06-2009, 12:28 AM

No.

We were the #4 overall defense last season. Transitioning to the 3-4 scheme would require 1) new coaches 2) new players... from what i see only Anthony and Fletcher would be solid running the 3-4 so for all practical purposes we'd require 3 new starting LBs and 2 new starting ends (Taylor might do well in a 3-4 but do we really want to pay this guy an arm and a leg experimenting?).

Just no.

... as to the claim that 3-4 defenses are dominating clearly Pitt and Baltimore fit that description but the other great defenses - NY, Philly, us - still run the 4-3 and have proven it can dominate the best offensive machine in NFL history. Really aside from two very lucky Superbowl wins by the Steelers, which required quite a bit of help from the officials, i doubt the 3-4 would carry the mystique it seems to.

SBXVII · 02-06-2009, 12:56 AM

I'll be the first to say don't tinker with something that's not broke but to me and I'll repeat to me 4th best in the league is a shocker. I know every year or every other year we are in the top 10 as a defense, but I just can't help feeling like ....yes the team was a top notch D but I feel like it struggled all season to even get there.

No pass rush
very few sacks
very few interceptions
DL not being able to collapse the pocket
No defensive TD's

It's the same feeling I get about the Special Teams. Every year I wonder why we can't get beyond the 30 yard line on KR. Why our PR can't seem to get more yards then 5 everytime teams punt to us. Then some one has to come along and present the stats for the year and if it's not Vinny then he's taking notes from the blogs cause we next see him on tv with the whole ...."they were 4th in the league. That's incredible. What more can we ask of them?" LOL.

02-05-2009, 03:49 PM	#31
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. In addition to every other reason why we shouldn't switch to a 3-4 is the fact that we have small LB's. Offensive guards would have a field day with Fletcher and Blades if they played as the ILB's in a 3-4. I prefer the idea of having 4 bodies on the line to let three roam free.

02-05-2009, 03:49 PM	#32
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. You are right, Baltimore did run a 4-3. Well, fire the coaches. I hate how concervative Blache was anyway. Last edited by T.O.Killa; 02-05-2009 at 03:57 PM.

02-05-2009, 04:19 PM	#33
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. Our D is pretty good and isn't the problem. If our offense was slightly above average we would have won 10-11 games last year.

02-05-2009, 05:23 PM	#34
horny4zorny-nohomo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 36	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. i say y not __________________ The Redskin 4n

02-05-2009, 05:48 PM	#35
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. This isn't an insane idea, but there would be a substancial defensive transition period. Carter has no spot in the 3-4 and he was the key cog on the DL the last two seasons. Taylor could be an OLB, and Monty is the ideal 3-4 NT. Maybe Golston could handle an end spot, and Daniels certainly could, but then the LBs are an issue. Fletch is adaptable, Rocky would be a sunk cost, Blades could play inside, but outside of Jason Taylor, no one else could handle a OLB spot. So lets say we took Tyson Jackson in the first to play behind Daniels for a year. We've: 1) Ignored the offensive line in the first two rounds 2) Still are incredibly thin at the LB position. It's an interesting idea, but not something that's practical for right now. Of course, neither are Blache's current schemes, but maybe I'm just being a hater. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

02-05-2009, 06:18 PM	#37
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. That'll come next offseason with Bill Cowher and Dom Capers but it will require a personnel overhaul. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

02-05-2009, 06:58 PM	#38
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. Switching defensive scheme to 3-4 defense is not the magical answer nor will it improve our team in any drastic way. The real problem is getting enough good players on this team on both sides of the ball, especially on the lines. We have not done a good job in drafting & acquiring players and how that relates to our salary cap. We are $3M over the cap and we an old team that is .500

02-05-2009, 09:23 PM	#39
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. who's gonna be the nose tackle? we don't have anyone that deserves a double team on a 4 man front.. much less a 3

02-05-2009, 09:54 PM	#40
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. Here's a thought, leave the defense alone. Our defense was ranked 4th last year. Our offense was 19th in yards per game and 28th in points per game. __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

02-05-2009, 11:33 PM	#42
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. Ditto with the title. I really don't care what system/scheme we run so long as it's attacking and the attacking is effective causing the QB to rush his passes or force some throws creating interceptions.

02-06-2009, 12:22 AM	#43
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. We don't have the LB's, the DL, or the coach for it. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

02-06-2009, 12:28 AM	#44
The Goat Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5,662	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. No. We were the #4 overall defense last season. Transitioning to the 3-4 scheme would require 1) new coaches 2) new players... from what i see only Anthony and Fletcher would be solid running the 3-4 so for all practical purposes we'd require 3 new starting LBs and 2 new starting ends (Taylor might do well in a 3-4 but do we really want to pay this guy an arm and a leg experimenting?). Just no. ... as to the claim that 3-4 defenses are dominating clearly Pitt and Baltimore fit that description but the other great defenses - NY, Philly, us - still run the 4-3 and have proven it can dominate the best offensive machine in NFL history. Really aside from two very lucky Superbowl wins by the Steelers, which required quite a bit of help from the officials, i doubt the 3-4 would carry the mystique it seems to. __________________ 24-34

02-06-2009, 12:56 AM	#45
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense. I'll be the first to say don't tinker with something that's not broke but to me and I'll repeat to me 4th best in the league is a shocker. I know every year or every other year we are in the top 10 as a defense, but I just can't help feeling like ....yes the team was a top notch D but I feel like it struggled all season to even get there. No pass rush very few sacks very few interceptions DL not being able to collapse the pocket No defensive TD's It's the same feeling I get about the Special Teams. Every year I wonder why we can't get beyond the 30 yard line on KR. Why our PR can't seem to get more yards then 5 everytime teams punt to us. Then some one has to come along and present the stats for the year and if it's not Vinny then he's taking notes from the blogs cause we next see him on tv with the whole ...."they were 4th in the league. That's incredible. What more can we ask of them?" LOL.

I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense.

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